10Bit to 8bit

[twistybox]

Why are people on this forum always recommending Handbrake?

Because it's cross-platform. Because it's updated regularly. Because it has easy presets for people who don't want to make manual settings. But I wouldn't bother with a GUI for converting a few movies. If you have a large batch it can also be more convenient on the command line. This is one area where Handbrake fails without additional third-party tools, since it can only perform batch operations on files manually added to its queue.

WRT the time/quality, I simply meant to say that in general, the more compression the worse the quality. Though small file sizes can also be made with lower data rate which is also lower quality, but can be done quickly.

Converting original multi-track audio to aac is a waste of time and only ensures that it has to be decoded and sent as PCM by the player. It also means a complete loss of multi-channel surround unless your audio pre/pro/receiver can handle 7 channel PCM over HDMI. It means you can't use an optical connection for surround. Always leave the audio as AC3 or DTS if available. If it's FLAC, go ahead and convert it, but better to convert it to AC3 using something like Popcorn Audioconverter.

The tradeoffs associated with 10bit encodes are significant enough that the process is largely a waste of time (ie. Don't do it). There's no way to know at this time if 10bit decode of H.264 will ever show up in consumer hardware and if it does, whether or not it will be compatible with the existing encoded content. The bottom line is that it's only suitable for playback on a computer with a limited set of playback tools.

[DoS]

The default presets for x264 are all that is needed for most users,and I would expect any good gui to include those.

You're right about that, but anime is traditionally 2.0 FLAC (for lossless or 2.0 AAC lossy) so it's rare you come across anything else. Any good gui will already have the ability to convert audio so there's no need for additional programs.

10bit is great for anime so it's highly, highly unlikely they'll stop using it. I have no idea what your talking about, but are you saying that possible future 10bit hardware acceleration would somehow not be compatible with 10bit encodes? It's quite simple if you like anime get used to 10bit, and buy a proper htpc to watch it or get used to doing a lot of transcoding.

Oh and playback of 10bit isn't limited even VLC handles it fine. You're far more likely to have problems with proper subtitle rendering support.

[darcilicious]

even VLC handles it fine

VLC is one of the most robust players out there so saying that "even VLC handles it fine" isn't much of an argument against "limited playback".

[DoS]

VLC is one of the most robust players out there so saying that "even VLC handles it fine" isn't much of an argument against "limited playback".

Wow, I mentioned it because it's common (therefor not limited in support) ,and VLC has traditionally had quite a lot of problems with playback. One of the first pieces of advice regarding anime playback is to avoid VLC.

Please tell me that as a moderator your post was joking and not meant to be purposely insulting?

[DoS]

delete please

[darcilicious]

Wow, I mentioned it because it's common (therefor not limited in support) ,and VLC has traditionally had quite a lot of problems with playback. One of the first pieces of advice regarding anime playback is to avoid VLC.

Maybe that's the case for anime but for every other format it has traditionally been one of the best players out there, never requiring additional codec packs and the like. So again, saying that even VLC plays nice with 10bit (not my experience but hey, whatever) is not saying much.

[DoS]

Maybe that's the case for anime but for every other format it has traditionally been one of the best players out there, never requiring additional codec packs and the like. So again, saying that even VLC plays nice with 10bit (not my experience but hey, whatever) is not saying much.

You still don't seem to understand this VLC is common therefor support for 10bit is not hard to find.

[bronz]

Thanks, A few things I noticed:
1. Your quality(guessing this is crf) setting is 10 put that at 18,
2. Level is at 5 does the program have unrestricted/auto guess?If not just put it at 4.1
3. Just muxing in the audio later is fine if you don't want to convert your audio to something smaller. If you do want to convert audio pick Video and Audio output stream type, and then audio aac( I don't now what audio options it has, but if possible variable bitrate quality 0.80)

first of all thanks to you also to darcilicious and kotobide

the reason why i want and others to use 8BIT because we use media players to large tv or use the USB in the TV to watch anime on BIT screen

BUT they all dont support 10bit

ok for the config i thought that 5 is for HD videos should i put it on 4.1 ?
and the quality from 10 to 18 ? wont that effect my quality ? because mostly its 1080p animes
the preset on medium if i change to high or fast will it effect quality ?

thanks