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    Default What compares to the Boxee Box?

    So everyone seems to talk about how the Boxee Box should be combined with other boxes to make the perfect box.

    How does the Boxee Box compare to other Boxes on the market?

    A few things that I found is that:

    1) Boxee Box seems to be the only box that connects your HD antenna for live TV.

    2) Boxee Box has numerous TV media apps (minus hulu plus)

    3) Boxee Box has Media Server capability DLNA (although is it working or not??)

    4) Boxee Box is a digital recording device.

    I don't see another box out there with this combination. They have almost consolidated everything and you would only have to keep your TV or Receiver on one Video Source. The only problem is that it's buggy to all hell, and Hulu Plus doesn't seem to ever be coming to Boxee.

    Is there even another product out there that competes? And has HD antenna hook up for live tv, TV media aps (mainly netflix and hulu) and Media Server capability DLNA, and DVR capability?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rossdret View Post
    4) Boxee Box is a digital recording device.
    Erm... Have I missed something?

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    Boxee box doesn't have Dvr capabilities but the western digital tv at 99 bucks has almost everything except the web browser no live tv either. It has Hulu plus and if u have a playon subscription u also have hbo go and amazon video. Also wd has MLB.tv and spotify. also plays any kind of file.

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    Nothing on the market today has DVR capability built into a small media device.

    If you want to go consumer-device based you're looking at TiVo as the only independent game in town, followed by the DVR of your cable or satellite company.

    There are a few PC-based DVR solutions, but the only one where you don't have to connect the PC directly to your TV and allows the use of extender/media devices, is Windows Media Center. Currently the only extender on the market is the XBOX 360 which also plays back a limited amount of other media like smaller streamers.

    As far as dedicated streamers go, there are many. They all have issues and a varying number of features.

    Boxee Box
    Iomega Boxee
    Western Digital Live
    Apple TV
    Roku
    Popcorn Hour
    Dlink random device of the month
    Dune
    Xtreamer
    Netgear
    ...100 you've never heard of...

    On the combination device list you have more...

    XBOX 360
    Playstation 3
    Nintendo Wii
    "Smart" TVs
    A boat-load of BluRay and DVD Players
    Some AV Receivers
    etc.

    The bigger players all support Netflix, then you also have mix-and-match support for Vudu, Hulu, etc. Boxee is probably the only one with a TV adapter, but the majority of TVs can receive a direct cable/antenna connection anyway so it's unlikely that owners of these other boxes care.

    When it comes down to it, Boxee has a better UI than any other device on the market. Many of them can match Boxee's app offerings and internet video support and even local file playback (WDTV plays back most things for instance).
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    Quote Originally Posted by rossdret View Post
    So everyone seems to talk about how the Boxee Box should be combined with other boxes to make the perfect box.

    How does the Boxee Box compare to other Boxes on the market?

    A few things that I found is that:

    1) Boxee Box seems to be the only box that connects your HD antenna for live TV.
    I believe this is true, however how big a deal is this really? It really doesn't add any great functionality you can't already do with your present TV. Most new TVs will do a better job then the dongle anyway as they can pickup both analog and digital channels.
    2) Boxee Box has numerous TV media apps (minus hulu plus)
    Yes it does
    3) Boxee Box has Media Server capability DLNA (although is it working or not??)
    Doesn't work at all since version 1.2 (or so)
    4) Boxee Box is a digital recording device.
    No it isn't. It's just live TV. No DVR functionality like play/pause, record, etc.
    I don't see another box out there with this combination. They have almost consolidated everything and you would only have to keep your TV or Receiver on one Video Source. The only problem is that it's buggy to all hell, and Hulu Plus doesn't seem to ever be coming to Boxee.
    Yes it has some bugs but it's still a strong little box. I personally wouldn't get caught up on having everything on one input source. Nothing wrong or hard with having live tv on one input (via antenna or cable/fios) and your online/local media on another input to the TV.
    Is there even another product out there that competes? And has HD antenna hook up for live tv, TV media aps (mainly netflix and hulu) and Media Server capability DLNA, and DVR capability?
    With the exception of the Live TV the 3rd generation WD Live TV box is also a good purchase. As already mentioned it's $99 list. Here are what I'd consider the major Pros and Cons of the WD Live TV compared to the BB.

    Pros
    It Plays every movie type I've thrown at it just as the BB does. It typically plays movies a bit smoother then the BB does.

    It has better Wifi support. Files that are to big for the BB and cause lots of buffering on the BB play just fine on the WD Live TV box over Wifi.

    Does not require talking back to the "server" like BB does. All information is stored locally.

    Movie and TV Show information is stored locally on the local drives. It makes editing if needed extremely easy. You can completely control what is shown. You can also add your own "info" for home movies, etc.

    If you have multiple WD Live TVs they also share the same "database" since it's file based.

    Has working DLNA. This allows you to run programs on a PC like PlayOn which can add further content to your little box and allows scraping of content. Can also use DLNA to access a Plex server or any other DLNA server.

    Allows you to change the theme used. There are 6 or so built in ones. Most are better then the plain looking default with the "grass theme". Can also d/l user created themes.

    Has better audio and picture support as this has for the most part been abandoned by Boxee. (not a big deal to me).

    Lots less bugs then Boxee. The WD Live TV just works and works well compared to the Boxee.

    Cons
    Interface is OK but not as nice as the BB is. BB has a nice User Interface.

    It doesn't have the scrapers built in like BB does. In other words you won't have a built in media library for movies and TV shows like on the BB for ONLINE content. Or have the ability to have the box automatically add the latest "Big Bang Theory" episode to your library before you download it (not a big deal for me).

    Has decent amount of APPs but you can't d/l from repositories and add 3rd party apps. (see dlna/playon above)

    Wrap Up
    The WD Live TV is a strong contender and maybe even a better choice for many. What it gives up with lack of apps it gains by having a good working DLNA system which allows you to use software like PlayOn which can be setup to gather a whole lot of content.

    You have more control of your media since everything is file based so you can use external scrapers to download movies and shows and add them to your local library with meta info and cover art.

    Depending on how you layout your local libraries the WD Live TV can be better. For example if you have a drive setup like this:
    Movies -all movies/films go here
    Classic Movies
    Favorite Movies
    TV Shows (sub directories for shows)
    Home Movies
    Kids Movies
    Kids TV Shows
    Recorded Shows (assuming you have a DVR setup like Beyond TV, SageTV, etc)

    Then when you go into the videos you get that structure. I like this because all movies aren't in one spot. For example you can easily get to kids movies and only have kids movies or keep them out of your "typical" viewing menu structure so as an adult you aren't tripping over them.

    You can do the same building directories for Classic movies (ie Wizzard of Oz, Gone with the Wind, etc). Stuff you don't mind having but don't want to get in the way during daily use. Same with Favorite movies. If you have movies your family tends to watch over and over you can add them to a directory to make them quick to find.

    So each of these boxes has pros and cons and each can be setup to do what you want for the most part with a little thought. IMHO the WD Live TV is the only other box at present worth considering for the "average" person.

    Carlo
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdmccormick89 View Post
    Boxee box doesn't have Dvr capabilities but the western digital tv at 99 bucks has almost everything except the web browser no live tv either. It has Hulu plus and if u have a playon subscription u also have hbo go and amazon video. Also wd has MLB.tv and spotify. also plays any kind of file.
    Any kind of file? Will it play my BD ISOs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post
    Any kind of file? Will it play my BD ISOs?
    Technically, an ISO isn't a media file, it's a disk image.
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    I wanted a streaming media device that:

    -Played any video file effortlessly through USB and NAS
    -Had Spotify Premium
    -Could access live sport sites through a browser

    3 Very simple things.

    As fara s I know Boxee is the only media player product on the amrket that does this.

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    If you need web browser support and the site isn't using anything higher then flash 10.x then Boxee is the only option unless you can use PlayOn (or similar) to access the site and then you can use DLNA from different boxes.

    Some other boxes support NFL.COM, NBA.COM, MLB.COM for example through built in apps but they all require a subscription.

    Curious, which sports do you watch and what sites are you using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cayars View Post

    Curious, which sports do you watch and what sites are you using?

    Carlo
    Mostly Soccer, rugby, boxing and cricket.

    www.liveonlinefooty.com is the most prominent. (subscription) I'd go so far to say that this site working on Boxee was almost a dealbreaker for me.

    The others are live streams from various sources. E.g. firstrowsports, Ustream, Justintv etc

    All very good on Boxee.

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