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    I also have issues with audio not playing at all on BD backup files, but have not tried an ISO file. Is the ISO the way to go now? I do not want to handle my BD collection as it is so easily damaged and wish to rip the ISO to my network drive for easy playback.

    Can anyone give me an idea of if or how to get this to work? Will I then be dealing with the HD audio drop out problems?

    I found this info
    http://adubvideo.net/how-to/backing-...h-bd-rebuilder
    Is ther a better process out there?

    Anyone have a better tutorial that is just a little simpler?

    PS; Will Boxee do 3D encoded BD movies if done in an ISO format?
    Last edited by ken1deb1; September 6th, 2011 at 11:35 PM.

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    Can you provide a little more info on your setup? Are you wiring your Boxee Box directly to your AV Receiver/Amp via HDMI? What audio settings do you have selected in the Boxee Box settings?

    If your AV Reciever/Amp doesn't support HD audio then you won't hit the known drop out issue as the audio will be down mixed. If it does and you are playing back a HD audio track then yes you will hit the issue. However, if you currently have no sound then maybe that needs to be fixed first!

    You can also use MakeMKV if you want to rip the disc to an mkv file. Thats pretty easy but I will let other users with more knowledge about what you want to do handle that one.

    The 3D BD movies need to be changed to a supported format as far as I am aware. Either Side-by-Side or Over-Under. You will probably need a ripper that supports those formats.

    Last edited by M1ster_Happy; September 7th, 2011 at 02:12 AM.
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    Boxee is set to HDMI and connected direct to the TV and I'm using the audio out on my TV to get sound digitally to my non-HDMI receiver.

    Boxee is set to HDMI and now all options are checked. I have tried limiting it to only the first two options being checked but that has not worked either. You are correct I get no audio at all but the file is a direct rip or copy to the network drive. This file format worked at one time but now it does not. I'm not too sure what broke the sound but I suspect it was a Boxee update as nothing on my system has changed. TV is a VIZIO XVT3D554SV with all available sound options selected.

    I will look for the MKV format info but an ISO format would seem to be the way to go if it will work, wouldn't it????

    No true 3-D that sucks (But TV does render side by side as well as over under)

    Thanks Ken

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    First off, the way you have it hooked up does not make any sense. Your TV more than likely cannot pass better than 2.0 channel sound back to your AVR over the optical connection. Most TVs cannot do this.

    A better way to hook it up might be to hook up the Boxee via HDMI to the TV and simultaneously to the audio video receiver with the optical connection. In other words, don't daisy chain from your TV to your amp.

    Uncheck all of those boxes. What made you think you want to check them? Bitstreaming for HD audio tracks is already broken so checking the audio boxes is going to break the audio if it is going straight to your TV. If you leave the boxes un-checked then Boxee will try to internally decode what it can from the audio track and send it out to your amp/TV as either 2.0 or 5.1 PCM, which should work fine, regardless of what TV/Amp you have.

    Final thing is, what are you using to rip your BDs? Which audio tracks are you selecting when you do whatever it is you are doing to convert the BD to a file?

    You do a lot of hand wringing about ISO vs. MKV but you must be doing something right now to try to convert your BDs to a file. ISOs work IF you remove the copy protection on them. Personally I find MKV much easier to deal with as the file sizes are smaller, you can pick what tracks you want to include, and down the road it is very easy to modify the audio/video tracks, re-encode it for a smaller file size (I convert a lot of lower quality movies to 720P now using handbrake and it's easier to start with an MKV in my opinion).

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    Quote Originally Posted by voip-ninja View Post
    First off, the way you have it hooked up does not make any sense. Your TV more than likely cannot pass better than 2.0 channel sound back to your AVR over the optical connection. Most TVs cannot do this.

    A better way to hook it up might be to hook up the Boxee via HDMI to the TV and simultaneously to the audio video receiver with the optical connection. In other words, don't daisy chain from your TV to your amp.

    Uncheck all of those boxes. What made you think you want to check them? Bitstreaming for HD audio tracks is already broken so checking the audio boxes is going to break the audio if it is going straight to your TV. If you leave the boxes un-checked then Boxee will try to internally decode what it can from the audio track and send it out to your amp/TV as either 2.0 or 5.1 PCM, which should work fine, regardless of what TV/Amp you have.

    Final thing is, what are you using to rip your BDs? Which audio tracks are you selecting when you do whatever it is you are doing to convert the BD to a file?

    You do a lot of hand wringing about ISO vs. MKV but you must be doing something right now to try to convert your BDs to a file. ISOs work IF you remove the copy protection on them. Personally I find MKV much easier to deal with as the file sizes are smaller, you can pick what tracks you want to include, and down the road it is very easy to modify the audio/video tracks, re-encode it for a smaller file size (I convert a lot of lower quality movies to 720P now using handbrake and it's easier to start with an MKV in my opinion).
    Thanks, I did not realize it was the selected sound options that caused my no sound problem. Don't know how it got changed but the BD sound worked before so I knew something had changed.

    I had lip sync issues on my older Sony TV the way you suggested to go direct to the receiver from Boxee. The stereo played the sound first then the TV would play the sound. I tuned the TV sound for mainly dialog and used the stereo to enhance the sound and play 5.1 sound. Most times I had the TV sound off though. I was using a HDMI switcher so that might have been the cause of the lip sync issue IDK. I am direct to the TV now as it has 5 HDMI inputs no lip sync issues now either so I did not change anything, the if it works do not screw with it theory. I have yet to try direct from Boxee on the new TV and have found it does have a lip sync option for me to adjust within the new TV settings. I also wanted the option to play local DOTA TV through my stereo if I wanted so for me it seemed to make sense. I can do both options I suppose and just select the appropriate audio input TV or Boxee.

    I have them ripped in raw BD file format with a BD compiler. The only reasons I was considering the ISO format is it lends itself to rewriting to a blank BD disc and can be played on a virtual CD/BD drive on my PC. I would like to here more on the pros and cons information on the MKV option as it sounds like a good space saving choice.

    Is there a tutorial/site on doing the riping with handbrake, up-scaling DVD to 720P and saving all your files as an MKV like you say you already are doing? This sounds beneficial too! Sorry I'm new to this BD thing and I'm doing the best I can with limited knowledge and help.

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