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    Quote Originally Posted by jkim5453 View Post
    I had already opened a support ticket to request this a while back, and Kosta at boxee followed up on it for me. It seems it was escalated to Jira as a bug, but I just learned that it was closed as a "Won't Fix" as a hardware limitation.

    http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-10931

    It's too bad. For me, the hi10p content count is increasing much more quickly than I expected (yup - anime), so I'll have to look for alternatives.
    Damn, I've also noticed that many animesubbers are switching to 10bit encoding. Since I'm using my boxee for 80% anime this is really bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkim5453 View Post
    I had already opened a support ticket to request this a while back, and Kosta at boxee followed up on it for me. It seems it was escalated to Jira as a bug, but I just learned that it was closed as a "Won't Fix" as a hardware limitation.

    http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-10931

    It's too bad. For me, the hi10p content count is increasing much more quickly than I expected (yup - anime), so I'll have to look for alternatives.
    I just wonder how an update in VLP o MPlayer add support to this without changing any hardware.

    And yes, there are more series coming in hi10 that I cannot see in boxee box.

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    Well this sucks, since I watch mostly anime on the Boxee Box myself. What is with anime fansubbers always changing to the most bleeding edge encoding techniques for fairly minimal gains in most cases? I remember the pain in the ass header compression was when I had the WDTV Live as my main media player. That thing would crap out when you tried to play a file with header compression and not play any other video until you unplugged the thing and restarted it.

    Hopefully, this doesn't catch on too fast or gets dropped when fans start complaining since media streamers such as HTPCs wth XBMC and Boxee Box are a lot more popular than they used to be in the past so the days of people sitting before their PCs watching stuff on a tiny screen is in the past for a lot of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Hock View Post
    Well this sucks, since I watch mostly anime on the Boxee Box myself.
    Also my case.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Hock View Post
    Hopefully, this doesn't catch on too fast or gets dropped when fans start complaining since media streamers such as HTPCs wth XBMC and Boxee Box are a lot more popular than they used to be in the past so the days of people sitting before their PCs watching stuff on a tiny screen is in the past for a lot of people.
    Unfortunately, they don't care at all...

    I think i'll also begin to search for alternative, maybe like building a "little" PC only for this, but the problem would be to get the direct audio stream with the hdmi, like you have with HW media players.
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    I'm in the same boat as most of you, many of the media files I watch are anime, and are increasingly often not compatible with the Boxee Box.

    Although the fansub groups usually lead the way in adopting fancy encoding techniques, some of those techniques are adopted by the 'regular' TV show encoders after a while. If some hit cable series for example cannot be viewed with the Boxee Box anymore, I imagine this will become a higher priority issue.

    In any case, here's hoping support for these files can still be implemented somehow...if not, I hope every anime fan that is about to buy a Boxee Box will save some cash by reading this thread first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Locke View Post
    I'm in the same boat as most of you, many of the media files I watch are anime, and are increasingly often not compatible with the Boxee Box.

    Although the fansub groups usually lead the way in adopting fancy encoding techniques, some of those techniques are adopted by the 'regular' TV show encoders after a while. If some hit cable series for example cannot be viewed with the Boxee Box anymore, I imagine this will become a higher priority issue.

    In any case, here's hoping support for these files can still be implemented somehow...if not, I hope every anime fan that is about to buy a Boxee Box will save some cash by reading this thread first.
    The thing is that these scene groups making this decision to go to 10-bit aren't just screwing over Boxee owners, they're screwing over EVERYONE who wants to watch their encodes on anything other than a PC. There is zero hardware support for this format.

    I hardly watch any anime, but if I did I'd be trying to convince these scene release groups to knock it the hell off. Eventually, 10-bit may be a good idea. But right now it's nothing short of stupid.
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    I'd be trying to convince these scene release groups to knock it the hell off. Eventually, 10-bit may be a good idea. But right now it's nothing short of stupid.
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    Is that even commercial content? Commercial content has only 8 bit in the past.
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    I can't find whether the BluRay spec allows for the possibility of this profile, but I doubt it. Commercial content isn't currently being released with High 10 Profile as BluRay has adopted simply "High Profile." It's however part of the H.264/MPEG-4 part 10 (AVC) spec and hardware decoders do exist that support it.

    Here's one: http://www.coreel.com/pages/products...64Decoder.aspx

    I don't recall if anyone has ever commented on whether or not it's actually possible for Boxee's hardware to handle it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prospero424 View Post
    Eventually, 10-bit may be a good idea. But right now it's nothing short of stupid.
    Yeah I agree with this to! don't understand this type of so called advancement! If you told someone to watch a movie in 8bit and had 10bit right beside it who could notice? This is retarted!

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