Open Boxee Box Bounty

**PhatPhreddy** · March 27th, 2011, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by Henpecked

I have no intention of reading 12 pages on this topic..I get the drift

As mentioned in a previous post...I've had my BB for a couple of weeks.

It does what I bought it for...Netflix Canada and streaming media from my Comp
Period! That's all I want

I'm now retired..played all my life with electronics..I have no interest in taking a $200 VW and making it into a Mercedes

All you unhappy souls...do what you like but care for the rest of us..
I don't wanna lose what I have working now to support your cause..

Build your own Box, and leave the rest of us be

So enjoy it and bee happy.. How does what I want to do with my boxee hardware effect what you do with yours.. It doesnt..

**aaronwt** · March 27th, 2011, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by PhatPhreddy

So enjoy it and bee happy.. How does what I want to do with my boxee hardware effect what you do with yours.. It doesnt..

It potentially could with the protected content partners. Who could potentially pull their content and that would screw everyone. Currently the Boxee Box is the best media player out there. It has come closest to getting everything right. Much closer than any other media player available.

**Henpecked** · March 27th, 2011, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by PhatPhreddy

So enjoy it and bee happy.. How does what I want to do with my boxee hardware effect what you do with yours.. It doesnt..

Living in Canada, it's hard enough to get anything up here...
So, when we do, I appreciate it

I wanted Netflix Canada, so my first Netflix enabled device was an Insignia blu ray player...I will never play a blu ray disc but bought for it for the Neflix feature..Set it up for the wife.
Wanting something different I checked around and had 2 choices..Apple Tv or BB..
I chose the latter

It works fine for me...Keep playin and we could lose the likes of Netflix..
But, like you said...I can't control what you do..
But, I can speak my mind...

**twistybox** · March 27th, 2011, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by PhatPhreddy

Bait and switch, pure and simple.

Return the product to the store for a refund. No one made such a promise as you claim. A hope, desire or even wish, do not make a promise.

**PhatPhreddy** · March 27th, 2011, 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by twistybox

Return the product to the store for a refund. No one made such a promise as you claim. A hope, desire or even wish, do not make a promise.

Not being a us purchaser (who paid about 2.5x what a us buyer did) I dont have any return policy.

And I disagree that a direct question to the head honcho getting such a clear and direct assurance is not a promise. Its what he said should happen, it hasnt.

**openboxee** · March 30th, 2011, 03:04 AM

Originally Posted by nickx

Count me in for 20 euro! I think it's good to be open.
I like to run xbmc cause of the skinning template and so on.

Regards

Thanks nickx! I'll count that as 30 (edited) USD to simplify counting.

Everyone:

Thank you for your comments on the pros and cons of having an open or requiring a closed BBox. For the sake of clarity here, please keep this thread for those that want to show their support, in a monetary way, for an open BBox.

Please do not debate the value of this in other threads. Thank you very much!

**openboxee** · April 18th, 2011, 08:20 AM

In an embarassing display of unprofessionalism and dishonesty, Marcel Hass of Boxee has publicly revealed his lack integrity in the post above this one. He vandalized my post, completely changing its meaning, without making clear what he did. Look closely at the post above, versus post #101 in this thread. He ADDED "do not" and completely changed the meaning of my statement. This is a complete abuse of moderator power.

See the full explanation at http://infinityoverzero.com/bbox/marcelhass.php

Also see Marcel's communication with me regarding D-Link and Boxee violating the GPL. More on that story at

http://infinityoverzero.com/bbox/

Thanks

Openboxee.

**twistybox** · April 18th, 2011, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by openboxee

He ADDED "do not" and completely changed the meaning of my statement.

A moderator edit should be highlighted so that readers know what is being written by the moderator. A moderator should instead delete portions of text and then add a block with their own explanation. You've posted a good example of a really bad moderator move.

However, that said... If your original text said "Please debate the value of this in other threads" it's an indication that you're trying to hijack the usefulness of this forum and create anarchy. If I were a moderator, I would have suspended your account immediately (temporarily) for that comment.

What you posted is called, in technical terms, "being a jackass."

As a piece of advice from someone who is not a lawyer, you may want to watch how and what you post, especially on your own site. You're really getting close to libeling Marcel and Boxee. From what I've seen (and again, I'm not a lawyer) you have a bigger case against you (in terms of libel) than Boxee does with regards to possible violation of GPL.

Just saying.

My honest, humble and most pro-active suggestion is to stop for a moment, look in the mirror and then go back and read everything you've written about Boxee and any of its employees. Consider some large revisions to further your ultimate goal, because going on the offensive is most definitely not going to get you what you want. You might consider going at this issue from a different angle as it can probably be solved by alternative means. For instance, you don't necessarily need access to Boxee's crypto keys to install new software. What if Boxee were to release an otherwise blank software update that would prepare the box to take new software? It would maintain security, not allowing access to the currently installed system by wiping it completely. And the source Boxee publishes wouldn't include sensitive components like their crypto and any sub-projects or apps that rely on it, such as Netflix, etc.

**brashers** · July 12th, 2011, 10:20 PM

I give up BOXEE! For some reason I have been fight (what I believed to be) the good! I spoke highly of you. Defending you to my friends... and my wife. Bought the BOXEE BOX, and believed your promises.

YOU HAVE FALLEN SHORT ON THEM ALL.

I do not understand, but I am finished waiting for you to do things you promise, assure, or guarantee. If anyone is considering buying a Boxee box vs apple tv vs Roku. Go apple tv.

Seek out a first gen apple tv.
Install XBMC, BOXEE, and NITO TV and you will finally have everything Boxee claimed you would have on the BOX. P.s. install the alpha boxee, not the beta