MMS Streams Audio Only=OK, Video=lockup

[JasonJLee]

Firstly, congrats on whoever designed the hardware box. Seeing that bought me here to have a look. After playing with lots of hardware over the years, it looks like I might finally have found a small quiet (hopefully) box that can handle 1080.. to be attached to all the screens in my house... without taking up much space!

The only problem I can see is streaming my security cameras..
By hook or crook I can do this to the various boxes around now.., grab stream into VLC and push out into different formats..

So, whilst I am on holiday with limited resources I thought I would have a quick look at streaming to Boxee.

I created an playlist.m3u in my videos with 2 mms sources...

mms://livewmstream-ws.bbc.co.uk.edgestreams.net/reflector:47971

mms://a1926.l1856941925.c18569.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1926/18569/v0001/reflector:41925

Windows media player 11 will play these fine using Open URL on the File menu.

Item 1 is audio only BBC. I think it should work worldwide.

Boxee shows its squares and then Now playing 'reflector:47971'
It will then play some audio and then stop.. a few seconds later it will start again, then continue fine.

Item 2 is NasaTV this does have a video feed, low framerate..
Audio comes in screen goes blank..
After less than 1 min the audio will get stuck and loop the last second over and over, as in

children..children..children..

until the app is closed from Taskmanager.

Below is a snip from the boxee.log

20:28:42 T:4304 M:462618624 WARNING: CDVDMessageQueue(player)::Put MSGQ_NOT_INITIALIZED
20:28:42 T:240 M:462602240  NOTICE: Creating InputStream
20:28:46 T:240 M:462401536    INFO: CDVDFactorySubtitle::GetSubtitles, searching subtitles
20:28:46 T:240 M:462401536    INFO: CDVDFactorySubtitle::GetSubtitles, searching subtitles done
20:28:46 T:240 M:462401536  NOTICE: Creating Demuxer
20:28:46 T:240 M:461598720    INFO: ffmpeg[F0]: Input #0, asf, from '':
20:28:46 T:240 M:461598720    INFO: ffmpeg[F0]:   Duration: N/A, start: 1882388.276000, bitrate: 143 kb/s
20:28:46 T:240 M:461598720    INFO: ffmpeg[F0]:     Stream #0.0(eng): Audio: wmav2, 44100 Hz, 2 channels, s16, 31 kb/s
20:28:46 T:240 M:461594624    INFO: ffmpeg[F0]:     Stream #0.1(eng): Video: wmv3, yuv420p, 320x240, 112 kb/s, 30.08 tbr, 1k tbn, 1k tbc
20:28:46 T:240 M:461594624    INFO: ffmpeg[F0]:   Metadata
20:28:46 T:240 M:461594624    INFO: ffmpeg[F0]:     title           : NASA Media Channel
20:28:46 T:240 M:461594624    INFO: ffmpeg[F0]:     author          : NASA
20:28:46 T:240 M:461594624    INFO: ffmpeg[F0]:     copyright       :
20:28:46 T:240 M:461594624    INFO: ffmpeg[F0]:     comment         : NASA Media Channel
20:28:46 T:240 M:461594624    INFO: ffmpeg[F0]:     WMFSDKVersion   : 10.00.00.4005
20:28:46 T:240 M:461594624    INFO: ffmpeg[F0]:     WMFSDKNeeded    : 0.0.0.0000
20:28:46 T:240 M:461594624    INFO: ffmpeg[F0]:     IsVBR           : 0
20:28:46 T:240 M:461594624 WARNING: CDVDPlayer::Process - Could not detect frame rate for: mms://a1926.l1856941925.c18569.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1926/18569/v0001/reflector:41925. Using default of 25.000 fps for conversion of any commercial break frame markers to times.
20:28:46 T:240 M:461594624  NOTICE: Opening audio stream: 0 source: 256
20:28:46 T:240 M:461594624  NOTICE: Finding audio codec for: 86025
20:28:46 T:240 M:461410304  NOTICE: Creating audio thread
20:28:46 T:2632 M:461398016  NOTICE: running thread: CDVDPlayerAudio::Process()
20:28:46 T:2632 M:461398016  NOTICE: Creating audio device with codec id: 86025, channels: 2, sample rate: 44100, no pass-through
20:28:46 T:240 M:461221888  NOTICE: Opening video stream: 1 source: 256
20:28:46 T:240 M:461213696  NOTICE: Creating video codec with codec id: 74
20:28:46 T:240 M:461201408  NOTICE: CDVDVideoCodecFFmpeg::Open() Using codec: Windows Media Video 9
20:28:46 T:240 M:461004800  NOTICE: Creating video thread
20:28:46 T:2432 M:460980224  NOTICE: running thread: video_thread
20:28:46 T:2632 M:460976128 WARNING: CDVDMessageQueue(audio)::Get - retrieved last data packet of queue
20:28:47 T:2432 M:460824576  NOTICE:  fps: 30.083334, pwidth: 320, pheight: 240, dwidth: 320, dheight: 240
20:28:47 T:2432 M:460816384  NOTICE: Display resolution DESKTOP : 1280x1024 @ 60.00 - Full Screen (12)
20:28:47 T:4304 M:460632064    INFO: Loading skin file: VideoFullScreen.xml
20:28:47 T:4304 M:460611584    INFO: Loading skin file: VideoOSD.xml
20:28:47 T:4304 M:460603392    INFO: Loading skin file: VideoOSDSettings.xml
20:28:47 T:4304 M:460435456    INFO: Loading skin file: VideoOSDSettings.xml
20:28:47 T:4304 M:462786560    INFO: m_pD3DDevice->Reset failed
20:28:47 T:4304 M:462798848   ERROR: Unable to create YV12 video texture 0
20:28:47 T:4304 M:462798848   ERROR: Unable to create YV12 video texture 1
20:28:47 T:2432 M:462790656   ERROR: CDVDPlayerVideo::Process - Exception caught when outputing picture
20:28:47 T:2432 M:462782464   ERROR: CDVDPlayerVideo::Process - Exception caught when outputing picture
20:28:47 T:2432 M:462782464 WARNING: CDVDMessageQueue(video)::Get - retrieved last data packet of queue
20:28:47 T:2432 M:462782464   ERROR: CDVDPlayerVideo::Process - Exception caught when outputing picture
20:28:47 T:4304 M:462782464    INFO: m_pD3DDevice->Reset failed
20:28:47 T:4304 M:462782464    INFO: m_pD3DDevice->Reset failed
20:28:47 T:4304 M:462782464    INFO: m_pD3DDevice->Reset failed
20:28:47 T:2432 M:462782464    INFO: CDVDPlayerVideo - Stillframe detected, switching to forced 30.083334 fps
20:28:47 T:2432 M:462782464   ERROR: CThread::staticThread : Access violation at 0x00ae4d6b: Writing location 0x00000000
20:28:47 T:2432 M:462782464  NOTICE: thread end: video_thread
20:28:48 T:4304 M:462798848    INFO: m_pD3DDevice->Reset failed
20:28:48 T:4304 M:462819328    INFO: m_pD3DDevice->Reset failed
20:28:48 T:4304 M:462819328    INFO: m_pD3DDevice->Reset failed
20:28:48 T:4304 M:462819328    INFO: m_pD3DDevice->Reset failed

This last line repeats over and over..

The machine I am testing on is an old Dell Dimension 4600 as I am away from home..
XP SP3 1 gig ram. Shows two processors in taskman, Geforce fx 5200..

175.19 drivers installed. From nvidia website scan the last drivers for that card which I downloaded this morning.

Flash 10.1 latest also downloaded today, along with directx web update.
Before doing that I had no playback of anything local or network, the black screen problem.

So the questions..

Is MMS supposed to be supported in the current beta?
Is it the old hardware I am using to test thats braking it?

More importantly..

Will MMS streams be supported in the Dlink/Boxee hardware?
Thats what I really want, 3-4 of these, one for every set, linked back to my media server, which also streams out the camers.
If not MMC, what about other streams VLC can output.. http rtsp udp...?

If the Dlink hardware will do it, its worth me learning further.
If not, I need to think again

[JasonJLee]

Wow,

13 days, lots of views and no one seems to have a clue.
Dlink hardware is getting lots of coverage, but no detail..

Searching on MMS gives only questions.. not a hint of an answer, at least on the beta.

I think i'll check back in another month or so.

[Shadar]

FYI, I also have this issue with MMS not being supported. I've had the Boxee D-link box for 6 months now, and cannot watch some of my favorites sites. I'm considering returning my Boxee. I've written many times to Boxee support, it doesn't look like they care. Here is the latest reply:

marcel hass, Mar-08 10:39 am (EST):
Hi

We are looking into mms in the future.
Regards,

Marcel

Sigh

-- Shaul

[iRoNBiLL]

Fellas... MMS is supported, but you have to use http:// instead of mms://

Give it a shot in one of your own playlists or make one on http://navix.turner3d.net real quick and test it for yourself on the Navi-X app (search our topic f you don't know where the repo is).

People swear it's not supported all the time but it is... just not the mms:// convention. People seem to think it's a protocol but it's really not... mms:// is like the early version of .wmv in a low enough format for streaming for the most part... try reading the summary of the file statistics and it tells you they are low level .wmv streams... in other words, mms is really a video container, not a protocol.

I put a ton of them in Navi-X Networks > TV Shows > Regional with my buddy Tikkiew a long time ago and the broadcasters stopped eventually, but we have a few there now still working. Even Streamfree.tv with the Live TV app had some TVforPC streams which are mms mainly working at one point until they had some server issues they aren't entirely discussing with us.

Try it out or add one to a playlist using http:// instead of mms:// and you should be just fine.

As far as them not caring, they have SOOOOOOO many things to work out still, they really did themselves a dis-service unfortunately by pushing out the Boxee 1.0 interface and API so quickly... it's been noted clearly by many people on these forums... just read through some of the topics my friends and you will find they can't seem to get the work done fast enough to make up for lost time... so I'm sure they are working their asses off day and night to make up for it. The mms:// part is more of a gimmick like sopcast:// or itunes://... nothing more.

iRoNBiLL