New version on Oct 20th. W00! H00!

[RobertBasil]

The title says it all. I can't wait! :)

[marcel]

worth the wait..:)

[gregwa]

Ok Marcel, what do you know you aren't telling us?!?!?!?!?

Come on. GIVE!

[RobertBasil]

I agree, spill some of the beans Marcel. ;)

[marcel]

11 days to go...:)

[gregwa]

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww MAN!

Can't you give is a hint or two?

[agentlame]

so i haven't checked google reader, today... for a second i thought robert just decided to announce he expected a new version by then.
all i could think was: 'wow, i didn't know we could do that!'

glad to hear about the new version, guys! can't wait to see the new super-sexy-secrete skin!

for any one who also missed the announcement: http://blog.boxee.tv/2008/10/09/october-20th-2008/

[idan]

she's gone be so so sexy...

putting the finishing touches to it as i'm writing...

[RobertBasil]

so i haven't checked google reader, today... for a second i thought robert just decided to announce he expected a new version by then.
all i could think was: 'wow, i didn't know we could do that!'

glad to hear about the new version, guys! can't wait to see the new super-sexy-secrete skin!

for any one who also missed the announcement: http://blog.boxee.tv/2008/10/09/october-20th-2008/

I saw the post about it from @boxee on Twitter. Didn't even see the blog post, thanks for the link!

[uncola]

I hope it enables external usb hard drives!

[agentlame]

I saw the post about it from @boxee on Twitter. Didn't even see the blog post, thanks for the link!

i still prefer the version where you just demand a new release by the 20th.

[RobertBasil]

i still prefer the version where you just demand a new release by the 20th.

Hell, if it was that easy I would have asked it be released on the 10th. ;)

[RobertBasil]

I hope it enables external usb hard drives!

Boxee already supports external USB HDD's on Mac's and Linux. Just not Apple TV's.

[perrin21]

will this next release still be classed as alpha or are we moving into beta?

[gregwa]

according to the main blog, "...release a new version of our alpha for Mac and Ubuntu (and Apple TV..). it is going to be our final alpha release. after that, it’s beta time…"

Hope this answers your question.

[xain09]

U guys made my day! I'm looking forward to the new release !

[perrin21]

im looking forward to it too. Hopefully it will include a seperate section for tv shows and online content from the main menu.

[perrin21]

id like to be able to select last fm from the main screen. and add menu items for quick selection.

[MTolent]

I hope it enables external usb hard drives!

what do you mean...? I already have this working here...

[agentlame]

what do you mean...? I already have this working here...

i think he's refering to easily configured external hdds on the apple tv.

[clarkbark]

I hate when they give you a date of release. Then all you do is think about it all the time. I can't wait :)

[dbuentel]

Thanks to a friend who has a Mac, I had the chance to patch my almost new AppleTV and have boxee installed in it, all I can say boxee team is a BIG KUDOS!!!

You have done a great job, and have opened the Pandora's box. I love my AppleTV, but now I love it even more. I have a small collection of DVD's and I am in the process of transferring them to my AppleTV, now, thanks to you guys I can do it in DivX format with a better resolution :D

Now, I have to say that love boxee and this news about the new version is really making me feel like this next week will last a month!!! If this is the last Alpha, oh boy... can't wait to see the beta...

Again, great job guys!!!

Dbuentel
~ AppleTV (160GB) boxee user

[marcel]

thanks guys ....5 days to go ...:)

[perrin21]

any chance of a changelist, we are supposed to be alpha testers.

[marcel]

you will get one in 5 days...:)we really do appreciate the effort of you guys..

[perrin21]

will there be any support for chat with friends within boxee?

[fishie]

windows release as well? my linux machine sucks, and i'm having problems running it on there.

[marcel]

4 days to go ...unfortunately no window version yet will come out before the end of the year:) .. alpha testers soon..

[perrin21]

any chance you could release this today and give us something to do over the weekend lol. Most people work during the week.

[agentlame]

any chance you could release this today and give us something to do over the weekend lol. Most people work during the week.

+1!!! ... ;)

[jag0]

ANy chance this release will support the new FFDshow build?

[marcel]

3 days to go ...so you guys will have to cancel your plans next weekend plenty to do...:)

[perrin21]

i hope it lives up the hype you have created marcel.

[marcel]

....:):):):)

[agentlame]

16 hrs, guys!

[cbeiting]

If it's 1/2 as good as Andrew has told me... it's going to be amazing! I can't wait to get my hands on it.

Soon everyone you will know... and you will be very happy.

[agentlame]

who is andrew?

[xain09]

It's 20.10.08 here in Belgium. Where's the new version.. Can't wait dudes ;)

[marcel]

we are only hours away....:)

[raed_n]

Hey guys,

I just learnt of Boxee two days back when i received an Apple TV as a gift and wanted to add functionality to it. From what i've been reading and watching on the web, Boxee appears to be great.

Is there anyone who can send me an invitation. I've already registered for the alpha version, however, i read that it could be months before i receive an a reply.

Thanks, and for those of you have it...hope the new release is as good as its made to be.

[mswbull]

Hi all,

Eagerly awaiting the new version. Any idea what time it will go live? It is coming up to 10:30 here in the UK.

I assume boxee is developed out of the US and therefore probably be this evening/tomorrow before us lot in the UK get to play with the new version.

Can't wait. Any new tip bits/teasers available.

[BeefStu2]

Hey guys,

I just learnt of Boxee two days back when i received an Apple TV as a gift and wanted to add functionality to it. From what i've been reading and watching on the web, Boxee appears to be great.

Is there anyone who can send me an invitation. I've already registered for the alpha version, however, i read that it could be months before i receive an a reply.

Thanks, and for those of you have it...hope the new release is as good as its made to be.

Can't help you out unless you put an email address in your profile... Also there's an existing invite thread here (http://forum.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=144).

[perrin21]

C'mon Marcel, Its Time :-)

[sneeks]

16 hrs, guys!

3pm UK time then :) Can't wait.

[jurrabi]

Although I just joined the forum, I hope that an invitation will come to see what this thing can do...


PS. Hi everyone.

PPS. Sorry about my english

[MetaCipher]

Although I just joined the forum, I hope that an invitation will come to see what this thing can do...


PS. Hi everyone.

PPS. Sorry about my english

What's your email address, I can send you an invite.

[davidmh]

are we there yet?

i mean: is it out yet? :D

*impatient ubuntu intrepid user* :p

[Apek]

Are we there yet?

[MetaCipher]

I found your MSN account, invite sent.

[slotje]

i'am new to this forum and also waiting for an invitation to start to try boxee.
hope this will be the product i'am waiting for the past 2 years. ;-) can annybody tell ore the invitations already are sendt today?:confused:

[MetaCipher]

i'am new to this forum and also waiting for an invitation to start to try boxee.
hope this will be the product i'am waiting for the past 2 years. ;-) can annybody tell ore the invitations already are sendt today?:confused:

Current Boxee members are allowed to send invites right away - give me your email address and I can send you an invite.

[agentlame]

the anticipation may literally kill me...

it feels like [insert late-december holiday of choice here] morning.

[jgw1977]

Well I'm on the East coast of America up and waiting...........................

Come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't tell me the new program is on a server in Hawaii and they won't be up for another 6 hours!





(Got some invites spare if people want some - just pm me!)

[agentlame]

Well I'm on the East coast of America up and waiting...........................

Come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't tell me the new program is on a server in Hawaii and they won't be up for another 6 hours!


i was gonna say not to worry because of this twitter post:

boxee new version will be available for download at 10am US/Pacific Time (UTC-7)
but then i realized they said pacific time... five hours to go. :(

[ssserpent]

from twitter: boxee new version will be available for download at 10am US/Pacific Time (UTC-7)

can't wait

[marcel]

feels like xmas has come early ...few more hours :)

[MetaCipher]

Gah. The blog lied!

http://blog.boxee.tv/2008/10/09/october-20th-2008/

[agentlame]

ok... i need to go find something to do--other then refreshing the forums--for the next few hours...

maybe watch some tv on windows media center. :p

[sneeks]

6pm UK time will be ideal, it'll be awaiting my return home from work tonight :)

[mswbull]

So any leaked information, screen shots, new features list?

Need to build the hype...

[davidmh]

what about now? are we there now? *hits F5* :D

[steveo]

...except I have to go to work!!! damn!

Glad to see TimeCapsule support. Very cool. Tho I had to manually add it as a source as it wasn't auto detected. I think you should add a . in the number pad on the onscreen keyboard to save some effort entering IP addresses. Yay for timecapsule!!!

Is it possible to change the Skin on the AppleTV? I kinda like the green one better than the live show one. Minor issue I know..

Seems less laggy during navigation.

That's the only feedback I have so far. I have only used it for 20 minutes tho ;)

Gotta run! Great job guys!!

[jgw1977]

Let's just guess and make it up!

I will start


I think new boxee will have......................................a better weather page.

[vraicovi]

Hulu, CBS, ABC...

[agentlame]

i can't believe they're adding cranial implant version of boxee!

shame it only runs on apple ibrain... please add support for open-source thoughts!!!

[marcel]

coffee machine ...fondue ...

[davidmh]

*f5*
*f5*
*f5*
*f5*
*f5*

[Apek]

Is there any way to go back to the previous green theme? I don't like this new one, too much red in my opinion. :p

[iBog]

I like Friday release dates so I can have the weekend to play with it. Now, I have to wait til I get home from work.

I suppose, the weekend gives the Boxee time for last minute updates.

[MetaCipher]

I like Friday release dates so I can have the weekend to play with it. Now, I have to wait til I get home from work.

I suppose, the weekend gives the Boxee time for last minute updates.

It gives them time to mess with your head and make you go crazy.

[gregwa]

It's 9:32am Mountain Time USA.

1 1/2 hours left.

Gotta be patient. Gotta be patient. Gotta be patient. Gotta be patient. Gotta be patient. Gotta be patient. Gotta be patient. Gotta be patient. Gotta be patient. Gotta be patient. Gotta be patient. Gotta be patient.

ARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

[agentlame]

Gotta be patient. Gotta be patient. Gotta be patient. Gotta be patient. Gotta be patient. Gotta be patient. Gotta be patient. Gotta be patient. Gotta be patient. Gotta be patient. Gotta be patient. Gotta be patient.

ARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

dude, i know! of all this time we've waited... this last hour might be the death of me.

$20 says: after all this, the site will go down. :(

[slotje]

can someone sendt me a invitation? :)

[agentlame]

can someone sendt me a invitation? :)

sure... need your email.

[slotje]

sure... need your email.

thanks pm with mailadres is on the way :D

[gregwa]

just gonna watch shows until the time hits. I agree...the site will probably be so bogged that it'll take days...but as they say, all good things come to those who wait...but what they don't say is that you'll go crazy in the meantime.

:D

[agentlame]

i'm doing the same thing... i keep trying to watch tv, but just end-up pausing it to check the forums.

this episode of the simpsons has taken no less than an hour.

[mytran80@hotmail.com]

what time exactly is the release? can't wait for the new version!
can someone send me an invite please? at mytran80@hotmail.com ,thanks :)

[agentlame]

the new release is in 1hr and 1min...

sent your invite.

[MetaCipher]

Trust me, the site will not go down. If any of you know about the recent Mother 3 translation (mother3.fobby.net/), that site did not go down when it launched, and when someone posted a blog post they would hundreds of posts all throughout the day (going up to around 2000 total over the course of about 2 days). We're barely on page 8 for this thread and only a few hours are left.

[agentlame]

but keep in-mind... they are sending out 10,000 invites. plus, every copy of boxee connects to boxee.tv... that's not even considering the people on the forums.

[johninsj]

So, is this just going to automagically show up as an update for us Ubuntu types? If so, yay.

[sneeks]

So long as I get my download I'll be happy :)

[iBog]

Wouldn't it be cool if the new version appeared as a download using the builtin torrent client?

[agentlame]

So, is this just going to automagically show up as an update for us Ubuntu types? If so, yay.

i think ubuntu only checks for updates once a day.

if you want it sooner, you will have to run the update manger, manually... or just:

sudo apt-get update

[sneeks]

I assume on the Apple TV it'll appear in the Update menu option at some time after 6pm in the UK?

[mytran80@hotmail.com]

invite received ,thanks

[raed_n]

Thanks for those who offered. My e-mail is raed_n(at)hotmail(.)com


Much appreciated...

[agentlame]

Thanks for those who offered. My e-mail is ***.

Much appreciated...

sent... enjoy.

[MetaCipher]

In any case, hopefully we're fine. Unless someone tells /b/ to be jerks and DDoS the server.

[agentlame]

Unless someone tells /b/ to be jerks and DDoS the server.

that's not even funny.... no one is allowed on 4chan, today!

[RobertBasil]

Ok, where is it? ;)

[MetaCipher]

The trolls are a huntin' for lulz.

[steveo]

I upgraded my apple tv this morning before heading to work. Is there another update coming? There are noticeable improvements in the update that I received.

[hster]

it's here!!
0.9.3935 !!! downloading it right now..

[Robby]

Boom, Anticipation reaches fever pitch.

[jgw1977]

Tells us what new then............................

[agentlame]

i see rss setting on the website... good idea!

this is gonna be soooooo cool!!!

[raed_n]

sent... enjoy.

Agentlame, thanks for the invite, but still nothing in mailbox or junk folder. Can you re-send please: raed_n @ hotmail . com

[xain09]

Installing.... report will follow later...

[jgw1977]

I have invites going if you want to PM me your email address.

[MetaCipher]

Shouldn't they put up release notes or something?

[johninsj]

i think ubuntu only checks for updates once a day.

if you want it sooner, you will have to run the update manger, manually... or just:

sudo apt-get update

not yet... ;)

[agentlame]

Shouldn't they put up release notes or something?

blog.boxee.tv

quick stuff:
Hulu
CBS
Comedy Central

[jgw1977]

on a laptop or connected to an HDTV, boxee gives you a true entertainment experiance to enjoy your movies, TV shows, music and photos, as well as streaming content from websites like Hulu, CBS, Comedy Central, Last.fm, and flickr. :eek:

[agentlame]

not yet... ;)

i know!!! i'm going nuts!

[gregwa]

at least I know that I'm not the only one who isn't getting the update :(

[raed_n]

Agentlame, thanks for the invite, but still nothing in mailbox or junk folder. Can you re-send please: raed_n @ hotmail . com

sorry, it took a while to get it...but its finally arrived...hope to join in the fun soon...

thanx

[MetaCipher]

blog.boxee.tv

quick stuff:
Hulu
CBS
Comedy Central

I noticed that, but that hardly counts as release notes.

[jgw1977]

hardware requirements


cpu

* Intel based Mac
* Apple TV


changes:

* complete UI overhaul
* play content available from: Hulu, CBS, Comedy Central, MySpaceTV, NextNewNetworks, On Networks
* connect to videos from Hulu and CBS straight from friends activity and recommendations
* manage your personal RSS feeds from http://app.boxee.tv and access them through boxee (on My Feeds under Internet Video or Internet Music)
* navigation in media is vertical (up/down) instead of horizontal (left/right)
* mouse is supported and enabled by default for new installations (for upgrades it can be enabled via Settings > Appearance)
* application settings (YouTube, Flickr, Last.fm) are now accessible from the Settings menu
* improved SMB support, which also fixes accessing your media via the Apple TV
* when using a keyboard, the ESCAPE button always takes you to the previous screen
* improved lyrics support
* improved subtitles look and feel, support for subtitle switching and fixed media going Speedy Gonzales for a few seconds when subtitle are applied
* when working in off-line mode, you can now properly access your local content
* numerous bug fixes
* many fixes from our friends at xbmc.org


known issues

* this is prerelease alpha software. 'nuff said.
* logoff is temporarily disabled, please exit and restart boxee if you wish to switch profile, sorry
* no pause in videos from Comedy Central and MySpaceTV
* no forward/reverse for Flash based sites (Hulu, CBS, Comedy Central...)
* on some (most) Flash movies - boxee will not identify the end. manual stop is required
* some Flash media may play in black-and-white, so go retro, and just playback again to resolve
* Flash media volume cannot currently be controlled via boxee. workaround - those nice volume up/down in your tv/receiver remote

[davidmh]

waiting for the linux version here :(

[steveo]

Well like I said in previous post.

Timecapsule support!!! amazing.
New GUI - I kinda like the old one better
Seems to be much snappier

I only had a few minutes to play before heading to work.

I would like to change the skin for sure. Haven't checked for MKV support yet.

To me - access to my Timecapsule was key cause it saves me moving stuff around.

So far so great :D

[cubsfan61]

Update looks nice. Great to have Hulu, CBS, RSS feeds. But... Streaming of Hulu and CBS is not very smooth right now. Will have to see if my broadband is just running slow, or if it's a boxee issue. Like being able to go straight to TV Shows from the Video top menu.

Kevin

[gregwa]

This is crazy! Why no linux update?:mad:

[rudyshoe]

Yeah, CBS and hulu are choppy for me too. Very cool though!!!!

[davidmh]

/me Hits F5 for linux version :p waiting waiting..

[gregwa]

doing sudo apt-get update. nothing.

[belovedmonster]

I am also waiting for the Linux. :(

[Apek]

Linux version? Anyone?

[agentlame]

so i'm sitting here running apt-get every two minutes... it finally says there is one update... amarok nightly build... :(

i think amarok is trying to get back at me... i haven't used it once since i got boxee.

[Handbone]

Hulu is smooth for me. Does it use the 360p option or the 480p option in hulu tho?

[gregwa]

So over an hour after the "release" and those of us on Linux are still waiting and NO information from the "powers that be" about why?!?!?!?!?!

FRUSTRATING.

[agentlame]

So over an hour after the "release" and those of us on Linux are still waiting and NO information from the "powers that be" about why?!?!?!?!?!

FRUSTRATING.

we're still ok... from Tom:

tsella: @agentlame of course, @boxee is coming for linux. in a few minutes to the apt repos :)

[gregwa]

Thanks, agentlame. I'll step outside and cool off for a few minutes.

[celticfan]

Any news on a 64bit release?

[belovedmonster]

Still no Linux? :cool: I've got to go to work soon. :(

[abandonow]

but is it released to the hardy repo, or is there going to be one for intrepid?

[agentlame]

IT'S HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11one

[/breakcapsrule]

[belovedmonster]

Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

[gregwa]

pulling down version on Intrepid now. and version for Hardy.

Will comment soon...well, downloads are slow, so maybe not soon, but soon ;)

[tsella]

sorry for the linux delays guys. some wierd snafu with Packages.gz. let me know how you like the new version.

[gregwa]

intrepid got finished first. Runs!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

Gonna play in a couple of minutes.

OH...BTW...new ui looks WONDERFUL!!!!!

[yuvalt]

Interpid is not supported in this release. We're just no happy with the quality of Boxee on 8.10. We're working on it and will keep you guys posted.

[abandonow]

Im having some bugs with the new linux version.

- It crashes when trying to play an mp3 (maybe some issues with setting digital sound out to default?).
- Boxee went black on idle, and did not wake up. I can see the mousepointer when moving it.

[gregwa]

Actually, it is working on my Intrepid version. However, the quality isn't as good as 8.04.

[sev7en]

Glad to be on the Team for the OSX version! :)

[johninsj]

Updated on one but not both Ubuntus (I have no idea...) quick peek, seems snappier. More later

[marcel]

guys remember this version is for hardy ,we will have an intrepid version out in the near future..:)

[marcel]

Told you the new version would be sexy....what do you guys think?

[agentlame]

honestly, it was a bit of a shock... it felt a little 'crowded' at first.

but after a little time with it, i realized that it was crowed with media, not ui.

you guys pulled of what ms and apple have failed to do so many times:
make the media the focus. boxee is wall-to-wall media, now... and it looks great!

bravo... very well done!!!

(and the color and widget styling are just sexy!)

[Apek]

it rules, seriously.

PS. Most of the new streaming sources are valid only in the USA :(

[conjett]

I'm running Boxee on an Apple TV with a DSL connection using wifi 802.11g and the vidoeo on Hulu and the CBS shows (that's all I've tested so far) are choppy and/or freezing frequently. Are people with Ethernet connections and higher speed internet services are having the same issues. I would cancel my basic comcast cable service in a minute if the video was less jerky and it wasn't a hardware limitation of my Apple TV that was the culprit.

[bigfatdummy]

Looks nice. I will go through and see if the bugs with the last version are still present for me.

[fishie]

this release works alot better on my old crappy linux machine. keep up the good work

[cubsfan61]

I have Comcast cable broadband and Hulu and CBS are choppy for me as well.

Kevin

[Mr. Polite]

This release is incredible. Much faster, more stable and the skin updates are great. The menu is easier to navigate as well.


I have Comcast cable broadband and Hulu and CBS are choppy for me as well.

Kevin

I'm certain neither CBS or Hulu have a transcoded video feed ala Youtube or Revision3. So Boxee must be playing these sources via its built-in Flash player. If your machine has a hard time playing full screen video from CBS or Hulu outside of Boxee (as mine does) I'd imagine the problem wouldn't be fixed by viewing them full screen from within Boxee.

I've found that quitting Gnome and running a light weight window manager helps a bit.

[agentlame]

This release is incredible. Much faster, more stable and the skin updates are great. The menu is easier to navigate as well.



I'm certain neither CBS or Hulu have a transcoded video feed ala Youtube or Revision3. So Boxee must be playing these sources via its built-in Flash player. If your machine has a hard time playing full screen video from CBS or Hulu outside of Boxee (as mine does) I'd imagine the problem wouldn't be fixed by viewing them full screen from within Boxee.

I've found that quitting Gnome and running a light weight window manager helps a bit.

yeah... there is an app called bxflplayer that seems to handle the flash streams. i have a feeling it's a sdl wrapper for webkit, or maybe even libflash.so, directly.

stream on my system are a bit laggy, and eat the cpu... but the payback is not bad.

in another thread, one of the devs said they are working on options to set the stream quality.

[panthar]

Is there an x64 build for Ubuntu being built for this release?

[agentlame]

Is there an x64 build for Ubuntu being built for this release?

unfortunately, there is not.

[cubsfan61]

Looks like the ability to filter movies by genre is gone. Only choices in the right menu are to change the screen layout and the sort. That's a feature that needs to be added back. When you have several hundred movies, filtering by genre is a very nice feature to have.

If the filter feature is still available but somewhere I haven't found, please let me know. Thanks.

Kevin

[agentlame]

Looks like the ability to filter movies by genre is gone. Only choices in the right menu are to change the screen layout and the sort. That's a feature that needs to be added back. When you have several hundred movies, filtering by genre is a very nice feature to have.

If the filter feature is still available but somewhere I haven't found, please let me know. Thanks.

Kevin

i'm not sure that the team is going to read this entire thread... can you repost this in the feature requests, or bugs, section?

[johninsj]

Upgrades under linux went great, this version is much improved!

Question - I'm not seeing the new (CBS, etc) Internet show options... is that just a matter of adding some rss feeds somewhere?

[jurrabi]

I'm running Boxee on an Apple TV with a DSL connection using wifi 802.11g and the vidoeo on Hulu and the CBS shows (that's all I've tested so far) are choppy and/or freezing frequently. Are people with Ethernet connections and higher speed internet services are having the same issues. I would cancel my basic comcast cable service in a minute if the video was less jerky and it wasn't a hardware limitation of my Apple TV that was the culprit.

I think that it doesn't matter if your using wifi or ethernet cable to access de internet. Wifi g gives up to 54mbps (less in reality but enought for internet streaming of low quality flash movies like the ones you are trying to get) and ethernet cable up to 100mbps (or 1Gbps if you had a great switch, what I doubt will be the case)

But what matters is your internet download bandwith. I don't know how things are there in the US. Here in Europe you can have from a small 1mbps connection up to 20Mbps with DSL connections (trough old analog lines) or even more if you get optical...

I cannot check because CBS content is not allowed here in Spain (only for US) but you can do a simple check... Try running the same video o the computer and see if it goes also choppy...

My bet is that you don't have enough bandwith with your internet provider... time to fat it up a little...

Hope I could help.

Best regards,

Jur.

[marcel]

@ johninsj try removing your .boxee file and try running again if this does not work then removing your profile and login in from scratch..it seeems like an upgrade hitch...

[johninsj]

@ johninsj try removing your .boxee file and try running again if this does not work then removing your profile and login in from scratch..it seeems like an upgrade hitch...

Yep seems likely. Oh well, reconfig from scratch it is ;)