New Beta 1 Firmware 1.5.1.23679 (7th Feb)

[marcel]

New Beta firmware 1.5.1.23679 please download the file (http://betadl.boxee.tv.s3.amazonaws.com/ce4100/1.5.1.23679/Signed/boxee_1.5.1.23679.iso?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJK2ZPG2Q3 5AC46ZQ&Expires=1330689970&Signature=jKW%2B%2BEh49nEAAFUMDYNX6qF3R6Y%3D)and rename it to boxee.iso or just to boxee (if the file extension is hidden)and then follow these (http://boxee.zendesk.com/entries/328816-manual-upgrade) instructions to install.

Bug fix's :

Live TV


Cannot launch Live TV after a successful scan
Zip Code on Live TV needs to be mandatory, currently you can leave blank and select Next
Live TV edit channel caused a crash


Networking & File Playback


Cannot skip audio tracks (mp3 mainly) when playing video and audio
Video too slow, sound normal, playback unwatchable; AVI MSMPEG4 Video with mp3 Audio
Loud audio distortion on non-bitstreamed sources
Low resolution XviD/DivX videos playback is slow, stutters and dying audio


Libraries


"A" and "The" are ignored but "An" is not (for Ignore Prefixes for Local Content on Sort setting)


Browser


Browser Redirect Bug (pop up management), selection added under Settings>System>Browser


Interface


Episode thumbnails are too small
Greyed out image overlay via watched TV shows should be removed and just the green watched icon should be displayed
Error in Swedish translations
Browsing for subtitles does not load



Enjoy

Marcel & Team Boxee

[defenderbob]

first! :)


Looking forward to testing the popup to Bing / audio distortion listed.

Thanks for releasing!

[1ne2woBe]

Will give it a shot and report back....

[marcel]

cheers guys ..@defenderbob 2nd after me ...:-)

[nfodiz]

All over it like stink on #%!* Hopefully this release finally fixes audio dropouts over hdmi! But seriously, will give this a try.

[yuvalt]

It won't fix audio drop outs.

[nfodiz]

It won't fix audio drop outs.

Yeah I know, was a bad joke by me :D

[seekified]

Awesome, will give it a spin tomorrow. :) I'm liking the quicker releases you've got going currently!

[Angola]

"Browsing for subtitles does not load"

Can I browse and load PGS .sup subtitles? If not, will I be able to in future updates?

[yuvalt]

Yeah I know, was a bad joke by me :D

Good one, actually :-)

[marcel]

Yes PGS/SUP subtitles will work

[mbryanr]

@yuvalt..get that laptop replaced???:):D

[nfodiz]

Good one, actually :-)

Good to see you have such a good sense of humor and also glad to see Team Boxee show some presence in the forums lately. Will report back with any findings guys and thanks for the rapid releases lately.

[TimSykesNN]

Good one, actually :-)

Wow, I am glad you find it funny that there is a major bug in the software and has not been fixed in over a year. How about we have a laugh at the SMB issues we all been waiting for too that was working at one time and was broken but never fixed. HAHAHA so funny....:mad:

[aaronwt]

Wow, I am glad you find it funny that there is a major bug in the software and has not been fixed in over a year. How about we have a laugh at the SMB issues we all been waiting for too that was working at one time and was broken but never fixed. HAHAHA so funny....:mad:

when I recently found a title that worked better with NFS than SMB, I just said F*it and added NFS support to my unRAID and WHS so it won't be a problem again.. So now I access my movies over NFS with my Boxee Boxes and still access them over SMB with my Popcorn Hour products.

Hopefully the HD audio dropout issue will still be fixed in early Spring.

[mozmac]

Can anyone confirm that it fixes the pop-up redirect issue that takes you to Bing.com? I can't try it out until tonight.

When the Jira ticket was closed, the comment didn't make it sound like the actual issue had been fixed. The issue is that clicking "Allow" takes you to Bing Videos. The issue was never, "I want a setting to always allow popups."

See here: http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-11840?focusedCommentId=59864&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpane ls:comment-tabpanel#comment-59864

[marcel]

i checked the examples in the ticket and they worked for me ..

[TimSykesNN]

yeah tried the NFS but cant get boxee to read my Win 2008 R2 NFS shares. So that is out of luck, so I am stuck with the broken SMB.

My point was its a little unprofessional to make a joke about a big software bug that has been going on for what like 15 months. And think its funny.

[mozmac]

i checked the examples in the ticket and they worked for me ..

Thank you, Marcel. I little communication from Boxee employees goes a long way. Can't wait to get back some great functionality!

[ILikeVoltron]

Any chance I can get more than "English" for audio displayed under the CC box, like say the codec it uses? I've reverted to looking at my receiver and seeing it say, Dolby II or whatever.

[Sneckster]

Downloading now, looking forward to giving the popups thing a test so I can get back to google+ and be able to follow links.

Alas I have two kids who seem to think bedtime stories are more important!

[savenlid]

wife happy again
a bliss

[haveringcottage]

thanks boxee guys - it definitely is noticeable how more of you are on hand now in the forum to give feedback / listen to users.

can someone post something quick about developments on the flash update? It really is crippling my boxee experience here in the UK.

are adobe even working on 11.x for linux for intel ce?

pleeeeease can we have even the smallest amount of new info on this? the silence is deafening.

[ILikeVoltron]

thanks boxee guys - it definitely is noticeable how more of you are on hand now in the forum to give feedback / listen to users.

can someone post something quick about developments on the flash update? It really is crippling my boxee experience here in the UK.

are adobe even working on 11.x for linux for intel ce?

pleeeeease can we have even the smallest amount of new info on this? the silence is deafening.

See if this answers some of your questions: http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2011/11/flash-focus.html

[haveringcottage]

See if this answers some of your questions: http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2011/11/flash-focus.html

that press release is about "new mobile device configurations" - which i assume does not include the boxee hardware.

i'd love to hear something from boxee on flash update progress.

[defenderbob]

My point was its a little unprofessional to make a joke about a big software bug that has been going on for what like 15 months. And think its funny.

Boxee did not make the "joke."

I certainly do NOT think anyone was being serious and holding a fix just out of reach because they think its funny.

I actually wouldn't mind if Andrew / Marcel / %insert boxee rep% started posting knock knock jokes or funny shit they see on Youtube ... Like Ron Livingston's performance of Charlie Schmidtt's Keyboard Cat - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvZjMYUPIMU :)






See if this answers some of your questions: http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations...ash-focus.html

That was posted from Nov 9th - there might be an old thread that covers it already.

[ILikeVoltron]

that press release is about "new mobile device configurations" - which i assume does not include the boxee hardware.

i'd love to hear something from boxee on flash update progress.

Possible decline
In November 2011 there were a number of announcements that demonstrated a possible decline in demand for rich Internet application architectures, and Flash in particular.[14]
Furthermore, in November 2011 Adobe announced the end of Flash for mobile platforms or TV, instead focusing on HTML5 for browser content and Adobe AIR for the various mobile AppStores.[15][16][17] Pundits questioned its continued relevance even on the desktop[18] and described it as "the beginning of the end".[19] RIM announced that it would continue to develop Flash for the PlayBook.[20]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Flash

[ILikeVoltron]

Possible decline
In November 2011 there were a number of announcements that demonstrated a possible decline in demand for rich Internet application architectures, and Flash in particular.[14]
Furthermore, in November 2011 Adobe announced the end of Flash for mobile platforms or TV, instead focusing on HTML5 for browser content and Adobe AIR for the various mobile AppStores.[15][16][17] Pundits questioned its continued relevance even on the desktop[18] and described it as "the beginning of the end".[19] RIM announced that it would continue to develop Flash for the PlayBook.[20]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Flash

edit: I don't see it happening and I'm sure people at boxee don't want to say for sure that it won't be supported either.

[haveringcottage]

this really would make boxee's position untenable - which would explain their silence on the issue.

boxee can only hold off users for so long with "no comment".

if there is no forthcoming flash update for this particular intel chipset, then we really aught to know. and potential purchasers ought to know.

there would be refunds galore and a complete commercial fiasco if it turned out boxee knew and were just hiding it from retailers/end users.

i can only hope the news is not that bad.

[haveringcottage]

ps - sorry to have "hijacked" this Beta 1 thread somewhat, but i feel it is an important and serious issue which really does need addressing sooner rather than later and i dont see how boxee can ignore the elephant in the room much longer.

[defenderbob]

there would be refunds galore and a complete commercial fiasco if it turned out boxee knew and were just hiding it from retailers/end users.

i can only hope the news is not that bad.

I would highly doubt that Boxee would know any faster than a consumer (or Engadget / another tech site and or blog.)


Side note - who has installed the beta?!?! :)

[nfodiz]

I would highly doubt that Boxee would know any faster than a consumer (or Engadget / another tech site and or blog.)


Side note - who has installed the beta?!?! :)

I have! Everything stated as fixed in the release notes is working for me. No idea on live tv fixes though as I don't have the dongle. SMB performance still crippled for high bitrate stuff but that was not a mentioned fix so... Here's to hoping some more serious bugs start getting worked on now.

[Sneckster]

Got the kids to bed and got it upgraded.

So I went to test a google+ link and what happens? I get that google accounts cookie settings message and have to clear my cookies and cache and had to put all my passwords back in AGAIN.

Anyway, the link worked and I am now watching the Drunken History of Superman’s Death and Resurrection.


I did notice that you still can't comment on facebook or search reddit though :(

[yuvalt]

@yuvalt..get that laptop replaced???:):D

Yes, with a two year old lappy, hoping Apple will release a new model soon once Ivy Bridge is out.

[jairofsouza]

Greyed out image overlay via watched TV shows should be removed and just the green watched icon should be displayed
Browsing for subtitles does not load


Works fine here.



Episode thumbnails are too small


OK, the thumbs are bigger. I don't wanna be a complainer, but the TV Shows UI became a bit ugly now. I think that a better solution is to split the screen: put the episode list on the left, and the thumbs and description on the right side (as the older TV show UI, by the way).
Nevertheless, I'd like to thank you for listening to the community.

[marcel]

Just keeping you posted on the flash ...

Unfortunately due to the technical differences between Flash on a computer and Flash on a set top box, currently we do not have a quick way to upgrade Flash. Adobe does not support Flash 10.3 (the latest version) on connected devices like the Boxee Box. We are waiting to get a version and commence work - no timeline for that yet.

As soon as we have one, I will make it known.

Thanks for your patience.

[yuvalt]

that press release is about "new mobile device configurations" - which i assume does not include the boxee hardware.

i'd love to hear something from boxee on flash update progress.

Boxee does not develop Flash. Intel is the licensee (and actually working with other 3rd party on porting Flash to their platforms and certifying it). The only thing we are doing is push Intel for updates and bug fixes. At this point, due to the situation with Adobe Flash for TV, there is no clear roadmap for updating to a newer version. This is why you see this "no comment". We don't have good news and we don't have bad news. I would love to have newer version of Flash as much as you guys would, but it is completely out of our hands. If there is any update we will let you know. At this point it's clear that Flash for video is dying and that Internet videos will be based on HTML 5 (either standard or other, more secure means where DRM is required). We are in a transition period, that's why it's so frustrating.

[jairofsouza]

At this point it's clear that Flash for video is dying and that Internet videos will be based on HTML 5 (either standard or other, more secure means where DRM is required).
For sure! Because of this that I do not complain about the Flash updates. In the end, Steve Jobs was right concerning Adobe: Flash is not a good choise for devices than not PC.

[Ronald]

I would highly doubt that Boxee would know any faster than a consumer (or Engadget / another tech site and or blog.)


Side note - who has installed the beta?!?! :)
I'm going to install it tonight, but I expect it will be a shortlived visitor in my box, since its bugfix list does not mention the manual episode identification bug.

(You can check it out and vote for a fix via this link (http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-12533))

And until that bug is fixed I'll have to stay with 1.5.0.23615, which doesn't have that bug. So the install of this beta is just to make a few tests, including the verification that the bug mentioned above still remains, like I'm sure it does (since no attempt has been made to fix it yet).

Best regards: Ronald

[hackztor]

Ditto. Got fed up with waiting for it to be fixed since it prob wont come till after the hd audio dropouts fix in spring. I am guessing by summer if ever.


when I recently found a title that worked better with NFS than SMB, I just said F*it and added NFS support to my unRAID and WHS so it won't be a problem again.. So now I access my movies over NFS with my Boxee Boxes and still access them over SMB with my Popcorn Hour products.

Hopefully the HD audio dropout issue will still be fixed in early Spring.

[hackztor]

Doubtful..the jira ticket does not leave much hope. Not even assigned a fix for it. Says triage. The better solution is to switch over to nfs if you can in the mean time or stay at 1.1.3 if you need smb. Prob wont be fixed till summer if we are lucky.


I have! Everything stated as fixed in the release notes is working for me. No idea on live tv fixes though as I don't have the dongle. SMB performance still crippled for high bitrate stuff but that was not a mentioned fix so... Here's to hoping some more serious bugs start getting worked on now.

[jpreville]

Awesome! Thanks Guys. Any word on Flash Update. Looks Like MTV just updated there site to New Flash Recently. So another site down for the count till new flash player comes out.

John

[finger]

Did someone notice if the customized zoom is working again?

[nfodiz]

Did someone notice if the customized zoom is working again?

Still seems broken. Selecting it does nothing.

[mbryanr]

Added a debug log to -12527 and 12533 for the manual identification bug.

Reverting back to 1.5.0.23615

[mrjohnyblaze]

manual identification of tv shows is still broken

the UI changes with shows thumbnails are an improvement but I feel 1.2 was superior.

That damn left menu in movies and shows is a waste of space. It should be hidden like it was in .9 like how the alphabet menu is now hidden on the right. The available space really needs to be optimized.

Adding an additional view mode that mimics 1.2 styling would be nice because it was useful having details on the right for quick identification.

Long plot descriptions need to scroll.

audio selections should not be in CC menu

fix SMB performance

[yoos]

Thanks for checking on the "manual identification of tv shows" both of you! I won't bother trying this beta then....

Also, I agree 100% with EVERY thing mrjohnyblaze just said:


the UI changes with shows thumbnails are an improvement but I feel 1.2 was superior.

That damn left menu in movies and shows is a waste of space. It should be hidden like it was in .9 like how the alphabet menu is now hidden on the right. The available space really needs to be optimized.

Adding an additional view mode that mimics 1.2 styling would be nice because it was useful having details on the right for quick identification.

Long plot descriptions need to scroll.

audio selections should not be in CC menu

fix SMB performance

[yoos]

Just like to add... The "manual identification of tv shows" bug wouldn't bother me if boxee found and used all my nfo's during the scan process, but for some reason it doesn't so I have always had to manually identify those it didn't process correctly. This wasn't that big a deal in previous releases before this 1.5 bug as I'd just go manually identify the shows/movies and then it would ask if I want to use the nfo and I'd say yes and all was good... It was always around 30 or so files I'd have to do this to, and it's not consistent on which files.

The "manual identification of tv shows" bug still needs to be fixed.... I'm just mentioning the other issue too, which was covered up through using the "manual identification of tv shows" previously.

[Angola]

Yes PGS/SUP subtitles will work

It's not seeing my .sup file when browsing

[mbryanr]

I'd like to add that 1.5.0.26343 struggled to (nfo) identify all of my shows and movies during a "remove source, re-add and scan. It took way too long, and was partially correct. The only thing I did was navigate the movie and show display, and the file location. During one of the remove source dances, I also tried to manually identify a show...which stopped the identification process, reported earlier by drunkwithpower or haveringcottage.

I always identify those two together;)

1.5.0.26315 has no problems identifying all of my library.

[wetsqueegee]

after putting the beta on my boxee will only turn off by holding the power button on the unit. cannot shut off the unit using the remote.

[yoos]

1.5.0.26315 has no problems identifying all of my library.

same here...

[yoos]

I just noticed there's no assignee to this jira bug where manually identifying files isn't working. Does anyone know if that means nobody is looking into this at this time? I hope that's not the case. I would think this is a show stopper before the next general release, but that's just my opinion thinking boxee should be able to show/play the files you have through the movie/show wall.

http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-12533

[mbryanr]

Asaf is looking at it and duplicated the bug on his Box. Ticket-12527 (requires "early access" permissions)

[yoos]

Well I personally don't like that there's duplication of issues where some are shown and some are hidden to all. That means people may be "wasting" their time posting comments and doing more testing on the issue that everyone sees when the hidden one may already be further along so people are wasting their time.

[magnus33]

Testing now..no real choice one of the kids spilled coke on the other Wd Tv Live:(

On the note of bug fixes its quite likely they aren't holding off on fixes that have been reported as done, but far more likely that they are waiting for the intel stuff to put out a major update.

Its doing them no favors taking on patches to old code it just makes more issues to fix and affects the stablty as a whole.

I much rather wait and see some firmware that boxee should have then see another patch thats just going to break something else.

Of course the other side of this is if it doesn't happen they are going to get burned at the stake after a tar and feathering..lol

[mbryanr]

@yoos...Ronald recommended a good solution..make all tickets "open" after the Early Release period for that firmware.

Right now there is now way for us to make those changes. Any "EA" user gets their tickets tagged with "EA" permissions.

[William-S]

Bonjour :)
Has anyone had problems adding new file sources with this firmware? I had to reset to defaults after a failed upgrade, which is fine, and these things happen. The problem is I can't add my original sources now, so I'm wondering if it's me or a problem with the new release?

It's not that I get any errors, but the Box just doesn't seem to acknowledge that I select a source. It doesn't seem to be related to any particular file system as SMB and NFS sources behave the same, but worked before.

Merci!

[cptbrw]

Boxee still doesn't remember my selection of vertical rather than tiled listing in "My Movies" and "My Show." Same for choice of oldest vs. newest first in listing for show episodes.

[clockboy]

after putting the beta on my boxee will only turn off by holding the power button on the unit. cannot shut off the unit using the remote.

my box will not shutdown from the remote either with this usb version. Will this be fixed? It was ok in the last official 1.5 release.

[soundoftheground]

after putting the beta on my boxee will only turn off by holding the power button on the unit. cannot shut off the unit using the remote.


my box will not shutdown from the remote either with this usb version. Will this be fixed? It was ok in the last official 1.5 release.

i've only tried twice but both times it shut down fine using the remote. also, if you do shut down at the box you only need to press the button once, no need to hold it down.

[defenderbob]

The decision engine seems to be gone - thanks for releasing this Marcel!

[clockboy]

i've only tried twice but both times it shut down fine using the remote. also, if you do shut down at the box you only need to press the button once, no need to hold it down.

maybe you have a different hardware version. not sure where this is shown in the box settings.

[Chuck_IV]

IDing TV shows bug is still there.

[soundoftheground]

maybe you have a different hardware version. not sure where this is shown in the box settings.

amazon preorder - A1

has it been determined that the shut down issues some experience and others don't is related to hardware versions?

[nuggyblake]

I have never had an issue with shut down (EVER), but just updated and my sweet little BB will not shut down either from the remote (has to be forced by holding down power button).

Holy crap batman !

[Chuck_IV]

anyone have a link to version 1.5.0.23615? aaronwt posted a link for it, but the download is running at 8k and would take over 7 HOURS to complete.

I accidentally deleted the 615 version I had.

[mbryanr]

18:20:31.014 T:2946333584 M:516231168 DEBUG: FileCurl::Close(0xaf9d6164) http://res.boxee.tv/titles/mres/movie?episode=11&filename=smb%3A%2F%2FTOWER%2Fmovies%2FTV%2FHouse%2 0MD%2FSeason%2008%2FHouse.S08E11.mkv&h=fa433c40dc863382%3a858988633&name=House&nfo_title=House&season=8&show_info=true&tvdb_series_id=73255
18:20:31.015 T:2946333584 M:516231168 DEBUG: CURL STATS: done with <res.boxee.tv>. 0.06k in: 0.15 sec. dns: 0.00 sec. connect: 0.05 s. pretransfer: 0.05 s. speed: 0.42 kbytes/sec.
18:20:31.016 T:2946333584 M:516231168 DEBUG: update ref map. url http://res.boxee.tv/titles/mres/movie?episode=11&filename=smb%3A%2F%2FTOWER%2Fmovies%2FTV%2FHouse%2 0MD%2FSeason%2008%2FHouse.S08E11.mkv&h=fa433c40dc863382%3a858988633&name=House&nfo_title=House&season=8&show_info=true&tvdb_series_id=73255 new ref_count 0 progress 0 (hcm)
18:20:31.016 T:2946333584 M:516231168 DEBUG: CGUIDialogBoxeeManualResolve::AddMovie, adding resolved movie to database, path = smb://TOWER/movies/TV/House MD/Season 08/House.S08E11.mkv (manual)
18:20:31.016 T:2946333584 M:516231168 DEBUG: CGUIDialogBoxeeManualResolve::AddMovie, remove previously existing video, path = smb://TOWER/movies/TV/House MD/Season 08/House.S08E11.mkv (manual)
18:20:31.017 T:2946333584 M:516231168 DEBUG: Boxee: 07/02/12 23:20:31.173#DEBUG#bxvideodatabase.cpp:2259(Remove VideoByPath)#BXVideoDatabase::RemoveVideoByPath, removing video from database: path = smb://TOWER/movies/TV/House MD/Season 08/House.S08E11.mkv
18:20:31.139 T:2946333584 M:516243456 DEBUG: Boxee: 07/02/12 23:20:31.1394#DEBUG#bxvideodatabase.cpp:1125(AddVi deo)#BXVideoDatabase::AddVideo, Adding video, path = smb://TOWER/movies/TV/House MD/Season 08/House.S08E11.mkv (videodb)
18:20:31.140 T:2946333584 M:516243456 DEBUG: Boxee: 07/02/12 23:20:31.1401#DEBUG#bxvideodatabase.cpp:1139(AddVi deo)#BXVideoDatabase::AddVideo, Adding video, title Nobody's Fault, path smb://TOWER/movies/TV/House MD/Season 08/House.S08E11.mkv
18:20:31.141 T:2946333584 M:516247552 DEBUG: Boxee: 07/02/12 23:20:31.1417#DEBUG#bxvideodatabase.cpp:1180(AddVi deo)#Add series, title = House (videodb)
18:20:31.142 T:2946333584 M:516247552 DEBUG: Boxee: 07/02/12 23:20:31.1425#DEBUG#bxvideodatabase.cpp:1204(AddVi deo)#Could not add series, boxee id is empty, title = House
18:20:31.143 T:2946333584 M:516247552 ERROR: CGUIDialogBoxeeManualResolve::AddMovie, unable to add video to database, path = smb://TOWER/movies/TV/House MD/Season 08/House.S08E11.mkv (manual)
18:20:31.143 T:2946333584 M:516247552 DEBUG: Thread 2946333584 terminating

Interesting to see a normal manual ID from .26315

[Chuck_IV]

Ok, for anyone who wants 1.5.1.23615, since it is the current release version, you can download it here...

http://www.boxee.tv/download/boxeebox

[bbullins]

IDing TV shows bug is still there.

yep - still cant add tv series, even when named according to boxee naming convention. Cant add them via scanning, doesnt show as unidentified and can manually identify but it never adds them to the tv show listings

[Carlos]

I have never had an issue with shut down (EVER), but just updated and my sweet little BB will not shut down either from the remote (has to be forced by holding down power button).

Holy crap batman !

Same problem here, but it starts with the first bugfix release.

Anyone knows if there is a bug report in Jira?

[mbryanr]

http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-12552

[mach_y]

yep - still cant add tv series, even when named according to boxee naming convention. Cant add them via scanning, doesnt show as unidentified and can manually identify but it never adds them to the tv show listings

Confirmed... same here. Is there a JIRA ticket we can vote on for this issue?

[yoos]

Confirmed... same here. Is there a JIRA ticket we can vote on for this issue?


http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-12533?focusedCommentId=59986#comment-59986

[minimalposter]

Awesome! Thanks Guys. Any word on Flash Update. Looks Like MTV just updated there site to New Flash Recently. So another site down for the count till new flash player comes out.

John

It looks like Comedy Central also requires a Flash update as well. The Daily show and Colbert Report are two of the main reasons I switched from Roxu to Boxee so I hope this is able to be updated.

[peterallcdn]

The following bug was apparently resolved on Monday Feb 6th. Just curious how long it takes a resolved bug to make its way into a beta or other release? I don't see it listed in the changes for this beta.

OSD settings : "Custom" option does not work anymore
http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-12395?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuet abpanels:all-tabpanel#issue-tabs

Thanks!

[cjmoreira]

It looks like Comedy Central also requires a Flash update as well. The Daily show and Colbert Report are two of the main reasons I switched from Roxu to Boxee so I hope this is able to be updated.

Brutal! They better update flash soon.....

[haveringcottage]

Boxee does not develop Flash. Intel is the licensee (and actually working with other 3rd party on porting Flash to their platforms and certifying it). The only thing we are doing is push Intel for updates and bug fixes. At this point, due to the situation with Adobe Flash for TV, there is no clear roadmap for updating to a newer version. This is why you see this "no comment". We don't have good news and we don't have bad news. I would love to have newer version of Flash as much as you guys would, but it is completely out of our hands. If there is any update we will let you know. At this point it's clear that Flash for video is dying and that Internet videos will be based on HTML 5 (either standard or other, more secure means where DRM is required). We are in a transition period, that's why it's so frustrating.

thank you yuvalt.

i'm disappointed the news isnt better but thank you anyway. at least now i (we) know and i will stop pestering for another few months :)

there are now a large list of websites that the box cannot play!!!

[haveringcottage]

thank you marcel also. :)

[kr1z]

manual identification of tv shows is still broken

the UI changes with shows thumbnails are an improvement but I feel 1.2 was superior.

That damn left menu in movies and shows is a waste of space. It should be hidden like it was in .9 like how the alphabet menu is now hidden on the right. The available space really needs to be optimized.

Adding an additional view mode that mimics 1.2 styling would be nice because it was useful having details on the right for quick identification.

Long plot descriptions need to scroll.

audio selections should not be in CC menu

fix SMB performance

.........Amen.

[magnus33]

Scanning is still borked or i should say more then normal.
You can't manual add shows and the dates are way off or i got back to the 1960 and haven't noticed the time slip :).

Thumbnails are indeed bigger and video/audio now starts correctly.

Leaving videos also is no longer displaying excessive lag but this may change over time depending on how long the box is running without a restart.

[boxee44]

the UI changes with shows thumbnails are an improvement but I feel 1.2 was superior.


Agree 100,000%!!!!
PLEASE MARCEL!
PLEASE bring back the 1.2 TV Show UI!
It is the only reason that I am not upgrading past 1.2.

[Luterin]

Did someone notice if the customized zoom is working again?

I really hope they fix this soon. It's extremely anoying not to be able to do custom zooming when watching old 4:3 content.

Also they should fixa a way to easier flag/unflag whole directories when it comes to watched/unwatched so you dont have to go thru every single damn episiode to reset it...

[luckywanderboy]

That damn left menu in movies and shows is a waste of space. It should be hidden like it was in .9 like how the alphabet menu is now hidden on the right. The available space really needs to be optimized.

+1
Alphabet menu takes very little space and yet it hidden, while this one uses like 1/5 of the screen and can't be removed.

[ktd]

Great job guys!

Have you located the faulty manually id:ing issue mentioned in the previous beta release topic?

I like the "new" approach with more frequent beta releases with fixes and communication.

[jairofsouza]

Testing now..no real choice one of the kids spilled coke on the other Wd Tv Live:(

On the note of bug fixes its quite likely they aren't holding off on fixes that have been reported as done, but far more likely that they are waiting for the intel stuff to put out a major update.

Its doing them no favors taking on patches to old code it just makes more issues to fix and affects the stablty as a whole.

I much rather wait and see some firmware that boxee should have then see another patch thats just going to break something else.

Of course the other side of this is if it doesn't happen they are going to get burned at the stake after a tar and feathering..lol
Please, confirm the fixes or report unknown new bugs. That's why this thread exists.

[peterallcdn]

I really hope they fix this soon. It's extremely anoying not to be able to do custom zooming when watching old 4:3 content.


I'm itching for this to be working again also. According to the following link, the problem has been fixed but I have no idea how long it'll take to get into a beta or other release.

http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-12395?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuet abpanels:all-tabpanel#issue-tabs

[jairofsouza]

+1
Alphabet menu takes very little space and yet it hidden, while this one uses like 1/5 of the screen and can't be removed.

This does not bother me. IMO, the side menu helped my wife to use the BB. When something is hidden on the screen may worsen the usability for people that dont have great ability with electronic devices.

[jairofsouza]

Thumbnails are indeed bigger and video/audio now starts correctly.

Leaving videos also is no longer displaying excessive lag but this may change over time depending on how long the box is running without a restart.

I can confirm this. In the other hand, my BB do not shutdown now using the remote control.

[jamierobins]

manual identification of tv shows is still broken

the UI changes with shows thumbnails are an improvement but I feel 1.2 was superior.



if we are talking visual design the movie screen can be improved to. At present under each movie poster boxee puts the name with cruddy text but for long films it cant fit all the name in and uses two lines to do so. It would be much better if the movie name appeared at the bottom of the screen when you scroll over a poster, that way the spaces between the poster can be less hence bigger thumbnails.

[Sneckster]

I actually really like the new TV shows page, once we get some online content in the uk I can see that having that on screen instead of hidden will be useful for the mrs and kids.

That's if we get any online content in the uk. :~(

Also why do people want bigger thumbnails? that just means less content on a page which means more pages and more scrolling. We are all using our boxee boxes on TVs right?

[kr1z]

if we are talking visual design the movie screen can be improved to. At present under each movie poster boxee puts the name with cruddy text but for long films it cant fit all the name in and uses two lines to do so. It would be much better if the movie name appeared at the bottom of the screen when you scroll over a poster, that way the spaces between the poster can be less hence bigger thumbnails.

amen to that too.

[janrex]

Great job guys!

Have you located the faulty manually id:ing issue mentioned in the previous beta release topic?

I like the "new" approach with more frequent beta releases with fixes and communication.

I think I found the issue... hopefully their devs can see it too! See my latest post:
http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-12533

[mbryanr]

Confirmed ^^
http://forums.boxee.tv/showpost.php?p=250818&postcount=68

and see
http://forums.boxee.tv/showpost.php?p=250778&postcount=54

[yoos]

Brutal! They better update flash soon.....

Yes, and we are talking technology here.... There has to be some work around method like transcoding to the supported boxee flash version.... It may not be the preferred method, but things are just getting worse and worse and it's not going to get better.

[luckywanderboy]

This does not bother me. IMO, the side menu helped my wife to use the BB. When something is hidden on the screen may worsen the usability for people that dont have great ability with electronic devices.

It's still possible to make it optional for such people.
I don't use it at all, yet it takes so much space.

[janrex]

Confirmed ^^
http://forums.boxee.tv/showpost.php?p=250818&postcount=68

and see
http://forums.boxee.tv/showpost.php?p=250778&postcount=54

Brilliant! Hope they fix it before releasing a "stable" version!

[jairofsouza]

It's still possible to make it optional for such people.
I don't use it at all, yet it takes so much space.

@luckywanderboy It's true. I like the new UI. It's easier (sometimes) and more beautiful. But I think the better UI was the pre-1.5 version for PC because it had several features the users request: hidden side menu, filters and searches for local media, and so on.
I'd like to see a firmware with "1.5 style" and "pre-1.5 PC" features.

Second day using this new firmware and no new bugs, but the shutdown issue.

[LewisFamily01]

if we are talking visual design the movie screen can be improved to. At present under each movie poster boxee puts the name with cruddy text but for long films it cant fit all the name in and uses two lines to do so. It would be much better if the movie name appeared at the bottom of the screen when you scroll over a poster, that way the spaces between the poster can be less hence bigger thumbnails.

I agree, currently I have many films appearing on the UI with apparently the same names, e.g. when you have sequals but there is no room for the full name with the number.

Alternatively the names could be removed altogether. Theoretically the Movie Artwork should be displaying the movie name (would be odd if it didn't) and the whole purpose of displaying the artwork is to allow selection of films from the artwork.

if a user doesn't know what a film is, then he/she can always select the artwork and then get the full name, description etc pop-up.

So removing the names under the artwork to me would clean up the screen with little impact. (but then again I am guessing that they are vital for some people with colour blindness etc. who can't rely upon the pictures).

...Peter

[LewisFamily01]

This does not bother me. IMO, the side menu helped my wife to use the BB. When something is hidden on the screen may worsen the usability for people that dont have great ability with electronic devices.


I agree to. The hidden A-Z on the right was not obvious to my wife, I had to point it out when she complained about having to scroll though the list all the time.

Having the options on the left clearly visible does help with the UI. Hiding them again would take us backwards towards to Pre 1.5 UI were it was all hidden in the extended pop-up menu and not very intuitive for the mass market.

I would vote for keeping the left hand menu.

By the way, its not just about people having the intelligence to find functionality, I personally enjoy having the left hand menu to remind me of the functionality. e.g. I tend to watch local TV show content as the norm, but since 1.5 was released I have been reminded more of the online content by seeing the "Shows Library" (I believe this is what its called) option on the menu. Prior to 1.5, I would never view online shows via the UI, always via APPs. So a definite improvement in my mind.

...Peter

[Sneckster]

Alternatively the names could be removed altogether. Theoretically the Movie Artwork should be displaying the movie name (would be odd if it didn't) and the whole purpose of displaying the artwork is to allow selection of films from the artwork.


I have a lot of content on the boxee that just has a screengrab as the boxee can't find a cover, it happens a lot in the Uk sadly.

[magnus33]

Boxee scanning is also not removing content that been deleted of the servers and it retains links to media that bean removed.

[jamierobins]

I agree, currently I have many films appearing on the UI with apparently the same names, e.g. when you have sequals but there is no room for the full name with the number.

Alternatively the names could be removed altogether.

So removing the names under the artwork to me would clean up the screen with little impact. (but then again I am guessing that they are vital for some people with colour blindness etc. who can't rely upon the pictures).

...Peter

Yes i think definitely remove the text from under the thumbs it looks so untidy especially when it doesnt fit the whole name under. not sure about removing text altogether thats why i suggested at bottom of the screen as there seems to be space there for a title to appear.

one thing i would dearly love is to have one thumb for a series of films ie lord of the rings, click on that thumb then go into another screen with all the lord of the rings a bit like tv shows.

[jamierobins]

I have a lot of content on the boxee that just has a screengrab as the boxee can't find a cover, it happens a lot in the Uk sadly.

have you tried using a folder.jpg you could create yourself?

[HvB83]

folder.jpg works without any problems (at least on the old firmwares, haven't tried the latest yet).

[Sneckster]

have you tried using a folder.jpg you could create yourself?

I was thinking more of your average consumer that Boxee is going to be trying to get to buy the box. They won't be wanting to mess with making covers and .NFO files. They just want to find their films, tv.

[mrjohnyblaze]

I agree to. The hidden A-Z on the right was not obvious to my wife, I had to point it out when she complained about having to scroll though the list all the time.

Having the options on the left clearly visible does help with the UI. Hiding them again would take us backwards towards to Pre 1.5 UI were it was all hidden in the extended pop-up menu and not very intuitive for the mass market.

I would vote for keeping the left hand menu.

By the way, its not just about people having the intelligence to find functionality, I personally enjoy having the left hand menu to remind me of the functionality. e.g. I tend to watch local TV show content as the norm, but since 1.5 was released I have been reminded more of the online content by seeing the "Shows Library" (I believe this is what its called) option on the menu. Prior to 1.5, I would never view online shows via the UI, always via APPs. So a definite improvement in my mind.

...Peter

How often is the left side menu actually utilized? I rarely use it.

Do the majority of boxee users have learning deficiencies that they are unable to understand a hidden side menu after it has been discovered? It took me a few minutes to find the hidden alphabet menu, but now I know it is there and how to access it. It is not a difficult concept.

Personally I do not need constant reminders about features that I use rarely.

[Rhoq]

I'm guessing that the whatever changes have been made to the browser still don't fix the HBO Go issue?

What about Amazon Instant Video? Are we able to watch Amazon VOD via the browser again?

[aaronwt]

anyone have a link to version 1.5.0.23615? aaronwt posted a link for it, but the download is running at 8k and would take over 7 HOURS to complete.

I accidentally deleted the 615 version I had.

They must have throttled my account for too much bandwidth being used in a short time period.
Sorry about that.

I have a bunch of the Windows Media showcase files and movie trailers that people seem to be downloading every day and I guess that, along with the Boxee Fimwares add up to alot of bandwidth for my "unlimited" bandwidth account, so they throttle me for a few hours when alot is downloaded in short period.
I plan on trying a new host soon so hopefully they won't be worse.

[marcel]

please use this thread www.boxee.tv/download/boxeebox to install 1.5.0.23615

[Chuck_IV]

I'm guessing that the whatever changes have been made to the browser still don't fix the HBO Go issue?

What about Amazon Instant Video? Are we able to watch Amazon VOD via the browser again?

What issue are you having with HBO GO? On the current release version (615) I've been able to watch HGO GO stuff just fine.

Amazon VOD on the otherhand doesn't work at all. Even using the Google TV link, I can get to where you can select a movie, but when you select it, it always says "Oops" and it can't get to the webpage.

Amazon wants to be a Netflix killer yet they seem to drag their feet when it comes to getting a workable client on many devices.

If Boxee would add Amazon on Demand and Hulu+ I'd be set.

[HvB83]

I was thinking more of your average consumer that Boxee is going to be trying to get to buy the box. They won't be wanting to mess with making covers and .NFO files. They just want to find their films, tv.
With 99% of the movies there is no issue, if you named them the way they are named on the IMBD. Usually if it's not identified, it's because the sequel is called "moviename part II" and you named it "moviename 2". Some intelligence on that side during identification would be great, but at this stage, it works for me.

I do find that shows have an issue since the 1.5-FW; Boxee identifies the seasons the right way, but some episodes are not identified correctly. They are put in the right season and everything, they just lack the screenshot, title, etc. So for the average consumer, this shouldn't be an issue.

[Rhoq]

What issue are you having with HBO GO? On the current release version (615) I've been able to watch HGO GO stuff just fine.

For me and many others, HBO Go is mess when you try to watch it in full screen.

Here (http://forums.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=38905) is one of several threads on the issue.

I exchanged emails with Marcel a week or two about it and he said that there has been no change, but would try to get the fix pushed up the list.


Amazon VOD on the otherhand doesn't work at all. Even using the Google TV link, I can get to where you can select a movie, but when you select it, it always says "Oops" and it can't get to the webpage.

Amazon wants to be a Netflix killer yet they seem to drag their feet when it comes to getting a workable client on many devices.

If Boxee would add Amazon on Demand and Hulu+ I'd be set.

That sucks about Amazon VOD. I tried it, again, with the Feb 1st bugfix Beta and it was a no go. As a Prime member, I would love to be able to watch the free movies on my TV via Boxee Box. I also asked Marcel about Amazon and he did mention to me in an email that Amazon has expressed interest in Boxee. He encouraged me to contact Amazon to request that they add support for the Boxee Box. I did, and received their usual "we don't currently support it, but I've forwarded your request on to the Amazon Instant Video team".

I would also love Hulu+, but I am happy to use the regular free Hulu thanks to Bartsidee's repository. ;)

[drunkwithpower]

With 99% of the movies there is no issue, if you named them the way they are named on the IMBD. Usually if it's not identified, it's because the sequel is called "moviename part II" and you named it "moviename 2". Some intelligence on that side during identification would be great, but at this stage, it works for me.

Funny you should mention the identification "intelligence" part. I have had a jira ticket http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-12338 open for this problem for a little while. Hopefully we'll get some of these things resolved soon.

[Chuck_IV]

For me and many others, HBO Go is mess when you try to watch it in full screen.

Here (http://forums.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=38905) is one of several threads on the issue.

I exchanged emails with Marcel a week or two about it and he said that there has been no change, but would try to get the fix pushed up the list.

Interesting. I should try it on my other TV. Just last week I watched an episode of Luck without any issues. However that is on a TV that can only do 1080i.

I should try it on the TV that does 1080p and see if it has the issue.

[a_team]

New Beta firmware 1.5.1.23679 please download

Marcel & Team Boxee

Can't wait to try it out! I'm loving the faster updates, bug fixing, and communication! Awesome! Boxee got a big +1 in my books today. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vh78T--ZUxY

:cool:

[a_team]

Hey Marcel and Yuvalt, just read your post about Flash!

Boxee gets another +1 in my books! :)

Can't thank you enough for taking the time to write, it's nice to have an official reason and know what the situation is from an official source instead of hear-say-forum-speculations.

#$%@ Adobe, I'd be happy if Apple takes them down in their feud. I hope broadcasters quickly upgrade to HTML 5 so we can all move on. Photoshop is their only worthy contribution, but I wonder what Lindsay Lohan would've looked like without it though. :rolleyes:

My only wish list items are: Scroll Wheel Support (Especially in Browser) http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-12195

and Netflix Volume Issues:
http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-12361

[Sneckster]

With 99% of the movies there is no issue, if you named them the way they are named on the IMBD. Usually if it's not identified, it's because the sequel is called "moviename part II" and you named it "moviename 2". Some intelligence on that side during identification would be great, but at this stage, it works for me.

I do find that shows have an issue since the 1.5-FW; Boxee identifies the seasons the right way, but some episodes are not identified correctly. They are put in the right season and everything, they just lack the screenshot, title, etc. So for the average consumer, this shouldn't be an issue.

Its more a case of UK content just not being on the tvdb and imdb than boxee not finding them

[Chuck_IV]

when I recently found a title that worked better with NFS than SMB, I just said F*it and added NFS support to my unRAID and WHS so it won't be a problem again.. So now I access my movies over NFS with my Boxee Boxes and still access them over SMB with my Popcorn Hour products.

Hopefully the HD audio dropout issue will still be fixed in early Spring.

I wish NFS was an option for one of my drives. I have 2 WD My Live network drives which do support NFS, so that's not an issue. It's the 3rd drive, which is a USB drive connected directly to my router(Netgear), that is only capable of SMB.

I think that's the issue for many. They really don't have a choice.

[dabomb420]

i Don't know what anyone else's experience is like, but i found 1.5.0.23643(1st February)) to be the most perfect release ever created, only thing i use boxee box for is streaming bd iso's and 1080p mkv's at very high bitrate through smb file share over ethernet. streaming ran with 0 buffereing for over 4 terabyes of stuff, on the new feb 7 release not 1 movie can play a minute without stuttering ? a weird video slowdown thing, or just buffering for a few seconds, I had to revert, but for everyone saying smb share isnt great, ITS PERFECT FOR ME on the feb 1st beta. i plan to stay on it forever. lol

[julestop]

Awesome, downloading now!

Thanks for the higher frequency of updates and fixes!!!

[mRYellow]

Still have shutdown issue/

[espacioami]

"Episode thumbnails are too small"

now, too big... arghhhh
(before i think it just perfect)
:(

why not two global themes? one normal o an other very biggggg (indeed the biggest theme in the world i f you want, maybe 72 dpi for the fonts or better 142 o 187 o 225 o !!!!) but please a normal and beauty theme.

[zipperhead46163]

Thanks for the update. I have noticed the Jira ticket for a problem I am eagerly waiting for has been marked as fixed. Erez Razin [Boxee] resolved BOXEE-12395 as Fixed, OSD settings : "Custom" option does not work anymore. This was one of my most favorite features of boxee. How long after it's marked as fixed in Jira does it take before a it's released in a firmware update? I can't wait to get it. Thank You.

[magnus33]

Thanks for the update. I have noticed the Jira ticket for a problem I am eagerly waiting for has been marked as fixed. Erez Razin [Boxee] resolved BOXEE-12395 as Fixed, OSD settings : "Custom" option does not work anymore. This was one of my most favorite features of boxee. How long after it's marked as fixed in Jira does it take before a it's released in a firmware update? I can't wait to get it. Thank You.

Being marked fix doesn't necessarily mean your going to see the fix.
There quite a few bugs marked fixed that haven't made it into any releases to date.
Hopefully this means they are working on a major overhaul.

[darcilicious]

It's usually indicated which release a fix is included in. The only fixes not in any release are those that are going into the next release (or a different/upcoming release based on the new kernel for the new Intel stuff they're probably working on, e.g. codenamed "Heidi 25").

In this particular case http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-12395, it says near the top of the page:


Resolution: Fixed
Fix Version/s: Client > Heidi.1

Heidi.1 is the codename for v1.5.1

In answer to this question:
how long from resolved Jira to firmware release?

Boxee typically doesn't announce release dates in advance.

[tennisbgc]

"Episode thumbnails are too small"

now, too big... arghhhh
(before i think it just perfect)
:(

why not two global themes? one normal o an other very biggggg (indeed the biggest theme in the world i f you want, maybe 72 dpi for the fonts or better 142 o 187 o 225 o !!!!) but please a normal and beauty theme.Actually the episode images are still smaller than the 1.2 version they just seem bigger because there on the left side. They need to move the images back to the right and the watched check mark away from the image because there hard to make out sometimes.

[iBoxee.TV]

So far I like this update. I'm glad to see that they fixed the pop up problem that was going on. I just don't like that it's a global option as opposed to a site-by-site option. There are some sites that I would agree with the pop up and some others that I don't even want to see it. So now, I'm required to go into the settings on those sites and disable the option, to go back to the browser and start over on the browsing. But overall, it does work good and glad that on the sites I don't want it, I no longer have to be bothered by the darn pop up.

Also, has anyone noticed that you can no longer share your movies on the social networks or with boxee users. They have removed some of the icons from the OSD menu when watching movies. Which kinda sucks, I like sharing some of the movies I watch and recommend to others.

On another note, some people like to have the side menu bar on the left. I have to point out again that this side bar is a no go with people that have plasmas (Burn-ins are not good) and it would be very nice to have it hidden like the A-Z menu on the right. Not only would it be good for the plasmas but it's extra real-estate for more content to be displayed. Also, the hidden menus are not hard to find and even if it was hard to find the first time, once found it you know where it is.

Other than the little bugs that have been already mentioned, it's good to hear that everyone is finally starting to get happy again and not a lot of complaining going on :)

[clockboy]

Still have shutdown issue/

yes me too, with the last 2 bug fix releases. there is a jira for this but no one has been assigned to it.

[gpearl77]

This could just be me but... I still use the zoom feature. I have not upgraded to the latest beta (running 1.5.0.23616) but I hit the "z" button on the remote and I am able to cycle through a few different settings. This is on local MKV files. Just thought I would share what I do so that I do not have to watch 4:3 format videos with bars.

[darcilicious]

Yeah, it's the "custom zoom" option that disappeared -- the preset zoom options are still there though.

[coolguy]

"Browsing for subtitles does not load"

Can I browse and load PGS .sup subtitles? If not, will I be able to in future updates?

I do have the same doubt. I am not so fluent in English so subtitles will be a great help.

[jt45]

No USB devices or upgrade file found....... I keep getting this after going through the usual steps. Im using the same flash drive i've used many times and as far as I can tell Im not doing anything differently. I normally have no problem with the manual updates.

Im gonna try reformatting the flash drive, if that doesn't work then Im stuck because this is not something I would have any trouble with normally and I've tried 2 different files in case I got a bad one the first time.

[darcilicious]

I've had that happen and reformatting usually fixed it. You might also try formatting to NTFS...

[jerryjoh]

I just installed the beta update and the browser is worse than before. I installed the beta update to clear up the problem with video popups redirecting to Bing video. Now I get garbage on the page where the link to play the movie was and the page never fully renders. The garbage on the page appears to be "hidden" messages in curly braces. The page that is supposed to be a list of videos just show their loading spinner and sets there forever.

I've cleared all the caches and cookies but nothing made any difference.

Is there any way to go back to the version that was active in December when everything worked?

I'm extremely frustrated with Boxee. I'm thinking getting it was huge mistake!

The site I'm specifically having a problem with is lynda dot com. It's a paid site but there are free videos on there that you can see the issue with.

Jerry

[jt45]

I've had that happen and reformatting usually fixed it. You might also try formatting to NTFS...

Well I checked the format and the file for errors and everything checked out good so I gave it another run and it loaded fine, so maybe it was just a glitch
or something, or could be my flash drive getting a little long in the tooth
since its been used off and on for a couple of years.

All is well now,
Thanks !

[halloweenboy]

if we are talking visual design the movie screen can be improved to. At present under each movie poster boxee puts the name with cruddy text but for long films it cant fit all the name in and uses two lines to do so. It would be much better if the movie name appeared at the bottom of the screen when you scroll over a poster, that way the spaces between the poster can be less hence bigger thumbnails.

Definitely need much bigger thumbnails! Please make the movie thumbnails larger so we can actually see the detail in the posters and it'll give enough room for the full movie title under each poster. Instead of 12 tiny posters at a time, how about 6 or 8 big ones (or have an option to let us choose how many we want to see at a time).

[savenlid]

yes me too, with the last 2 bug fix releases. there is a jira for this but no one has been assigned to it.

can someone point to the jira ?

I also have the shutdown issue.
backed up to head menu and told it to turn off and it hangs somewhere during shutdown leaving me to pull the cord.

[m0klos]

I must say I really like the new design. Please do not change back to large tbn, it hurts my eyes on a big TV.

[Sneckster]

When using the last beta and going to WEB to watch youtube did we have the OSD and controls like we get when we use the Boxee Browser app?

I much prefer having the OSD and controls but the ease of being able to click that Web button instead of going to apps.

[Luterin]

This could just be me but... I still use the zoom feature. I have not upgraded to the latest beta (running 1.5.0.23616) but I hit the "z" button on the remote and I am able to cycle through a few different settings. This is on local MKV files. Just thought I would share what I do so that I do not have to watch 4:3 format videos with bars.

Well, the zoom feature cuts off way too much. I just want a slight zoom...

[boxee44]

I must say I really like the new design. Please do not change back to large tbn, it hurts my eyes on a big TV.

You are in the minority.

[Sneckster]

You are in the minority.

I've only seen a few people moaning about the size being too small, everyone else seems to be happy enough not to comment on it.

Maybe the minority is the people who want larger pictures and less content on the screen, they just shout louder?

[mrjohnyblaze]

I must say I really like the new design. Please do not change back to large tbn, it hurts my eyes on a big TV.

Explain how larger icons hurt your eyes. You are probably one of those type of people that set their TV to vivid neon burn your eye balls settings.

[jamierobins]

Definitely need much bigger thumbnails! Please make the movie thumbnails larger so we can actually see the detail in the posters and it'll give enough room for the full movie title under each poster. Instead of 12 tiny posters at a time, how about 6 or 8 big ones (or have an option to let us choose how many we want to see at a time).

Thats the one, let us choose how many posters to show, some could have lots of small posters others fewer bigger posters so you can actually see them, also let us decide if we display the right handside column but please tidy up the text for movie names, looks rubbish at mo.

its a shame we cant choose from a few skins rather than be stuck with boxee design.

[jamierobins]

also let us decide if we display the right handside column

sorry left hand side column, make it hide like the right hand side perhaps

[jairofsouza]

yes me too, with the last 2 bug fix releases. there is a jira for this but no one has been assigned to it.
My shutdown problem had occured only with the first shutdown after upgrading. I cant reproduce it anymore... Very strange...

[luckywanderboy]

Yet another bug in this new firmware.

Episodes list in Shows mode takes a lot of time to appear.
I.e. when I select a show, I see an empty screen with spinny thingy for about a 10-15 sec. After that the list apperars and everything else is as usual.

[boxee44]

I've only seen a few people moaning about the size being too small, everyone else seems to be happy enough not to comment on it.
Are you reading the same forums I am?
The TV Show UI sucks! There is such a gross waste of space on that page.
All I am asking is that they enlarge the screen caps and add the synopsis back below the image (exactly like 1.2.2). There is plenty of real estate for that.
The current design is crap. Small images with nothing but space to the right, and no synopsis.
I honestly don't know WHY they even redesigned the UI on that screen. It was so perfect.

Marcel, all I am asking is that you enlarge the screen cap (tbn) and put the synopsis back beneath it. The rest of the UI (Season Nav) is fine.

[Badhabit07]

I've only seen a few people moaning about the size being too small, everyone else seems to be happy enough not to comment on it.

Maybe the minority is the people who want larger pictures and less content on the screen, they just shout louder?

I agree with you, I never understood the complainings about this one (and some other things...). I think that the thumbnails from the latest beta is a very good compromise for everyone. We are 6 in my circle of friends with BB, and everyone are very happy with that.

I really like the new interface, I know they will fix the bugs, and I hope that they will keep the way it looks. I remember when I bought my BB in january 2011: my BB is much much better today than it was at that time.

Keep up the good work BB Team, it's not because we do not take the time to comment positively in the forum that this mean we do not apreciate what you do!

Ciao!

Mart

PS: Sorry for my english, it's not my mother tongue.

[Rhoq]

Interesting. I should try it on my other TV. Just last week I watched an episode of Luck without any issues. However that is on a TV that can only do 1080i.

I should try it on the TV that does 1080p and see if it has the issue.

I should mention that I have the video output on the Boxee Box set at 720p. The TV it is connected to is 720p/1080i and when I have the output set to 1080i the picture, especially text, is blurry with lots of flickering and aliasing, BUT HBO Go in fullscreen displays fine at 1080i - it's just a pain to have to switch the output resolution every time I want to watch something from HBO Go.

[T.Bone]

Here is something strange I noticed, after one of my local content shows completed the boxee box insead of taking me back to my list rebooted. Thought that was weird.

[GurraGee]

Still has problem with indentifying files...

Stuck on half of mine, before 1.5 it worked outstanding...

No it just says, indentifying for days..

[a_team]

Hey Marcel & Team Boxee:

I love the new UI, especially the Season Navigation pane on the left for TV shows. Great Idea!

As for everyone on the Large Episode Icons Vs. Small Icons - I don't really care, they both look good, but anyway that this can be turned into an option so both parties are pleased? Small -> Medium -> Large?

Either as a Settings Option or Menu Option, I think this is the only way you can please those with Big and Small TV's.

I know my GF's never complained about it being too small ;)

[Bixiee]

Other things I'd like to see:

* When playing a sound file, that back and forth goes back and forth IN THE FILE (you know like for videos) instead of skipping to another sound file - this is bloody annoying (option please)

* Resume in audio files, and a check mark of what you've heard

* Link to apps on the filebrowser menu

[luckywanderboy]

I am quite happy with new UI. Smaller icons = less clicks and cover art is still perfectly visible.

What I am unhappy with is that covers keep reloading all the time, i.e. - enter the "movies" section, observe empty rectangles with spinny thingies, wait for thumbnails to load, try to scroll, notice that it's still loading and therefore super slow, so it isn't really scrolling, but skips a bunch of rows down instead; repat all the time you enter "movies" section.

Was hoping that it will be fixed in 1.5. Why can't they make sort of "screenshot" each time the list is updated and scroll it smoothly is beyond me, it's not like this list is dynamic.

[jairofsouza]

Something strange here: i was listening to some music and the audio became huge loud after play a .wav file and next a .mp3 file. Playing only .wav or only .mp3 works fine, instead.

[boxee44]

Hey Marcel & Team Boxee:

As for everyone on the Large Episode Icons Vs. Small Icons - I don't really care, they both look good, but anyway that this can be turned into an option so both parties are pleased? Small -> Medium -> Large?
I like that idea. Give us the option to personalize the TV Shows page!
BTW, I am talking about an individual TV Show's page, not the page with all of the TV shows and their box art, that page is fine.

Regardless of ".tbn" size, I feel that it is imperative that you put the show's Synopsis back beside/underneath the individual show's image.

Thanks Marcel!!

[bahamut458]

Love the new UI

I'll echo the countless requests for marking shows/movies as watched more efficiently with a simple hot key (w).

This feature is definitely a must and I'll personally provide body massages to all involved in accomplishing this.

[Carlos]

The hang at shutdown issue is becoming critical to me.

This starts to happen in the 1.5.1 beta firmwares.

Look, I'm not the type of user to come here just complaining, I always like to contribute as much as I can (filling bugs, sending logs and files to test).

But, sometimes is hard to keep calm and quiet.

The situation for me is becoming complicated. I can't watch some of my xvid 720p files, due a framerate issue, I can't watch a mp4 file, since BB restarts itself every time. Now I can't shutdown it by the remote and, sometimes, the Box don't connect to the net, I don't know why. And more, some xvid SD files present a small, but annoying, issue, they start to play and the screen gets dark for some seconds, to resume after.

The only files I don't have much problems are MKV/H264 ones. This because them don't have HD audio. Most of the times I can find releases in this format, but sometimes not, and ending with the only option available, wait for some new, magical, firmware release, that solves all this.

Is sad, but I will await, not only because I have hope (now they are focusing on the Box), but also because I spent all money I have in the moment, and can go to another device.

[ljudnisse]

The hang at shutdown issue is becoming critical to me.

This starts to happen in the 1.5.1 beta firmwares.

Look, I'm not the type of user to come here just complaining, I always like to contribute as much as I can (filling bugs, sending logs and files to test).

But, sometimes is hard to keep calm and quiet.

The situation for me is becoming complicated. I can't watch some of my xvid 720p files, due a framerate issue, I can't watch a mp4 file, since BB restarts itself every time. Now I can't shutdown it by the remote and, sometimes, the Box don't connect to the net, I don't know why. And more, some xvid SD files present a small, but annoying, issue, they start to play and the screen gets dark for some seconds, to resume after.

The only files I don't have much problems are MKV/H264 ones. This because them don't have HD audio. Most of the times I can find releases in this format, but sometimes not, and ending with the only option available, wait for some new, magical, firmware release, that solves all this.

Is sad, but I will await, not only because I have hope (now they are focusing on the Box), but also because I spent all money I have in the moment, and can go to another device.

Have you done a factory restore between the 1.2 and 1.5 upgrade ?
If not do an FR and the upgrade to latest beta, no garanti that this will help but it solved my problemes.

[jairofsouza]

Guys, I'd like you to help me to reproduce a bug with the mp3 player from BB. I have a mp3 that play fine on my PC but on BB the mp3 plays very very slow. Can someone download it and test it in your box, please? The url is http://www.ufjf.br/jairo_souza/files/2012/02/test_boxee.pdf (change the extension from "pdf" to "mp3").
Thanks!

[mrjohnyblaze]

What I am unhappy with is that covers keep reloading all the time, i.e. - enter the "movies" section, observe empty rectangles with spinny thingies, wait for thumbnails to load, try to scroll, notice that it's still loading and therefore super slow, so it isn't really scrolling, but skips a bunch of rows down instead; repat all the time you enter "movies" section.

Was hoping that it will be fixed in 1.5. Why can't they make sort of "screenshot" each time the list is updated and scroll it smoothly is beyond me, it's not like this list is dynamic.

I also really hope this can be fixed. This is a huge problem for me.

[Cybrow]

I can confirm it plays v e r y s l o w l y.....
but plays fine on the PC. Weird. It wouldn't play through my receiver, got the 'failed to initialize audio' bug pop up which by the way has been listed as fixed for an upcoming release.

[Carlos]

Have you done a factory restore between the 1.2 and 1.5 upgrade ?
If not do an FR and the upgrade to latest beta, no garanti that this will help but it solved my problemes.

Of course I did.

[halloweenboy]

What I am unhappy with is that covers keep reloading all the time, i.e. - enter the "movies" section, observe empty rectangles with spinny thingies, wait for thumbnails to load, try to scroll, notice that it's still loading and therefore super slow, so it isn't really scrolling, but skips a bunch of rows down instead; repat all the time you enter "movies" section.

Was hoping that it will be fixed in 1.5. Why can't they make sort of "screenshot" each time the list is updated and scroll it smoothly is beyond me, it's not like this list is dynamic.


I also really hope this can be fixed. This is a huge problem for me.

I have this issue as well. Posters show up slow and then they're gone as you scroll while it stutters.

As for the size of the thumbnails, for me personally, I spent a lot of time picking my own posters and would like to see them in all their glory. Even if it's just on the 'Overview' screen where the synopsis of the movie is given (which BTW is still an issue as it only has 4 lines of info and the rest is cut off), I'd really like to see large posters as there's just so much wasted space that could be put to use. For ex., does the 'play' button on the Overview screen really need to be that big?? The 12 posters on the wall could be left the way that it is, but the synopsis page at the very least should have a big poster, IMHO.

I can understand some people want the smaller thumbnails because more thumbnails can be shown at a time, but I still think the best option is to let us have a choice (ex. small/medium/large or 6/8/12 posters, or whatever). That way, everyone is happy!

[luckywanderboy]

I can understand some people want the smaller thumbnails because more thumbnails can be shown at a time, but I still think the best option is to let us have a choice (ex. small/medium/large or 6/8/12 posters, or whatever). That way, everyone is happy!

XBMC for Xbox actually had this option, I have no idea, why would they remove it.

[jairofsouza]

I can confirm it plays v e r y s l o w l y.....
but plays fine on the PC. Weird. It wouldn't play through my receiver, got the 'failed to initialize audio' bug pop up which by the way has been listed as fixed for an upcoming release.

Thanks. I'm trying to gather some information to open a JIRA ticket, but I have no idea why this bug occurs with this file... Ideas, folks?!

[dieterblomme]

Without the grey overlay, it's sometimes hard to see if it's watched again. This depends on the thumbnail, if the colours on the bottom right are bright, it's hard to see again...

[Cybrow]

Thanks. I'm trying to gather some information to open a JIRA ticket, but I have no idea why this bug occurs with this file... Ideas, folks?!

I tried it on my Seagate HD+ and it played perfectly.

[aaronwt]

Still has problem with indentifying files...

Stuck on half of mine, before 1.5 it worked outstanding...

No it just says, indentifying for days..

Did you try rebooting? I've always had an issue when it tries to identify alot of files at once. I have 1200+ BD ISOs to identify. When I've done a rescan, my boxes would typically identify 90% to 95% of the titles on the initial scan. Then I would just reboot it and the rest if the files are identified right away.

[wheeler_josh]

Hey, it worked for me. No more Bing... but uh-oh, I think I deleted Flash! Help!

[clockboy]

can someone point to the jira ?

I also have the shutdown issue.
backed up to head menu and told it to turn off and it hangs somewhere during shutdown leaving me to pull the cord.

Here is the jira: http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-12552

[iBoxee.TV]

I just installed the beta update and the browser is worse than before. I installed the beta update to clear up the problem with video popups redirecting to Bing video. Now I get garbage on the page where the link to play the movie was and the page never fully renders. The garbage on the page appears to be "hidden" messages in curly braces. The page that is supposed to be a list of videos just show their loading spinner and sets there forever.

I've cleared all the caches and cookies but nothing made any difference.

Is there any way to go back to the version that was active in December when everything worked?

I'm extremely frustrated with Boxee. I'm thinking getting it was huge mistake!

The site I'm specifically having a problem with is lynda dot com. It's a paid site but there are free videos on there that you can see the issue with.

Jerry



Jerry,
I saw your post and tried your Lynda dot com website and it looks like the videos on the home page are working for me correctly. Have you tried this lately and see if the issue is still happening with you. I did have to allow the popups or else the videos wouldn't play. I guess the site uses a popup to go into the video screen. But I played several on their home page including the video that introduces the site as well.

[stevefurey]

I upgraded, and I still can not browse for subtitles....

[mbryanr]

Here is the jira: http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-12552

someone should provide a debug log...that should easily show the hang.

[clockboy]

someone should provide a debug log...that should easily show the hang.

I just attached 2 log files to the jira ticket. The one for the shutdown issue and another on restart.

[Carlos]

I just attached 2 log files to the jira ticket. The one for the shutdown issue and another on restart.

Maybe this is the problem:

AUDIO RENDER: event wait timed out waiting on ABD callback for async stop! result: 13

I did a search and seems that the problem is linked to another audio issues (HD ones).

Let's hope they fix this soon.

[mbryanr]

Looks like this ticket ends up with the same debug error
http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-11318

[clockboy]

Looks like this ticket ends up with the same debug error
http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-11318

This is confusing. My BB is now shutting down normally after a few days when every time it would hang on shutdown. I will see what happens in the next few shutdowns.

[blacknovember]

On the pre-1.5 firmware, everything was just great. After that, not so much.

How can I get back to the older firmware? Will upgrade to newer one once all bugs have been resolved...

[minel]

it might take a while... took a year for pre 1.5 to be decent lol


On the pre-1.5 firmware, everything was just great. After that, not so much.

How can I get back to the older firmware? Will upgrade to newer one once all bugs have been resolved...

[AminB]

when does Boxee push this update for all ?

[Ronald]

On the pre-1.5 firmware, everything was just great. After that, not so much.

How can I get back to the older firmware?
This has been discussed many times before, so search for the details if you want to go through with it. (or just ask again, specifically for those details)

Essentially you must download the needed firmware file and then use Boxee's recovery menu, first to perform a 'Factory Restore', and then (after new boot into recovery menu) to perform a firmware install from USB.

The factory restore is needed to remove database structures of v1.5 that could confuse older firmwares (even to the point of crashing).

To keep an old firmware installed like this, you also need to block the auto-updates, which I recommend doing by adding a site/URL block to your router. (I've written instructions for that lots of times, as have others, so just search for it.)

Best regards: Ronald

[darcilicious]

when does Boxee push this update for all ?

Please review #3 in the READ THIS FIRST: Top Ten Boxee Topics (http://forums.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=45042).

[Prizm]

I'm having three problems with this release:

- Shutdown issue. Looks like others are having this problem as well.

- Sleep problem. Boxee won't go to sleep after a certain amount of time like it used to. It just stays on screensaver.

- I tried adding a couple episodes to an existing series, and even though I identified the episodes, they don't show up in the Shows listing.

thanks

[zoopz]

I upgraded, and I still can not browse for subtitles....
Same for me. Online never works, offline sometimes.

Also hangs quite a bit and won't shut down properly. Did complete factory wipe.

[jairofsouza]

I upgraded, and I still can not browse for subtitles....

What happens? Online or offline search? I use the online subtitle search a lot and works fine here. I have tried browsing for offline subtitles and also have worked fine. Have you ever tried a factory restore?

[eperdi]

Does everybody have the not shutting down issue? I am thinking about installing the last patch.....

[dsouza]

Does everybody have the not shutting down issue? I am thinking about installing the last patch.....

I am still using the official 1.5.

In the past I experienced the shutdown issue with 1.2. The following steps solved my problem:

1) Reset all configurations from the recovery menu.
2) Re-added all my sources.
3) Left the box powered on scanning the sources overnight.

And after this I've never had the shutdown issue anymore.

[soundoftheground]

Does everybody have the not shutting down issue? I am thinking about installing the last patch.....

i've personally never had any shutdown issues with any firmware since the box was released. i've also never done a factory restore before installing new firmware (except the very first time when boxee's instructions said it was necessary, v.1.0.xx).

it's another one of those weird and frustrating issues that seem to affect some but not all. like the high bitrate smb buffering issue which i've also never had an issue with once i replaced my dlink switch with another brand. i even ran an old 10/100 router as a switch while testing hardware and never buffered.

i feel for those who have these basic functionality issues.

[kman]

Hi, this will be my first manual update to my BB (purchased Boxing Day 2011).

Do I need to unzip the file? The instructions (http://boxee.zendesk.com/entries/328816-manual-upgrade) don't say so but I just want to be sure in case I mess something up and make my Boxee even more finicky than before (buffering, incredibly loud volume, not scanning TV shows, no subtitles, etc.)

Thank you.

[darcilicious]

Do I need to unzip the file? No, it's a firmware binary file that gets loaded into Boxee directly.

[Ronald]

I'm having three problems with this release:

- Shutdown issue. Looks like others are having this problem as well.

- Sleep problem. Boxee won't go to sleep after a certain amount of time like it used to. It just stays on screensaver.
I never had these problems, but it could be due to the known database problems of upgrading to v1.5 from some older firmware without using a 'Factory Restore' in between. This is needed to get rid of database structures that are not compatible to the new standards. It gave many of us problems at first, until we realized the cause of it and performed the 'Factory Reset' followed by a re-install of v1.5 from a USB drive.


- I tried adding a couple episodes to an existing series, and even though I identified the episodes, they don't show up in the Shows listing.
That is a known bug specific to the last two beta releases.
It has been reported, and team Boxee should be working to fix it.

But if you need this functionality ASAP you will have to revert to the stable v1.5.0.23615 (or older versions).

If you do this then I recommend that you do a full factory restore too, in case you haven't done that since last you used a pre-v1.5 firmware, as that will most likely cure the other problems you mentioned.

Best regards: Ronald

[mhungry]

Please update the manual update instructions to reflect the fact that you MUST rename the .iso downloaded from "boxee_1.5.1.23679.iso" (or whatever the current version number is) to just "boxee.iso".

Not doing so will cause Boxee's Recovery mode to simply tell a user that there is no USB media to read from.

[darcilicious]

The first post in this thread clearly states that you need to rename it (since it's a beta release).

If you're downloading the .iso via the link on the manual update instructions, there is no need to rename the file (which will be the latest non-beta release).

[eperdi]

i've personally never had any shutdown issues with any firmware since the box was released. i've also never done a factory restore before installing new firmware (except the very first time when boxee's instructions said it was necessary, v.1.0.xx).

it's another one of those weird and frustrating issues that seem to affect some but not all. like the high bitrate smb buffering issue which i've also never had an issue with once i replaced my dlink switch with another brand. i even ran an old 10/100 router as a switch while testing hardware and never buffered.

i feel for those who have these basic functionality issues.

Thanks for the comment, I did a factory reset and then the box upgraded automatically to 1.5 after that I applied the patch and I can say so far that I do not have the shut donw issue either, and I was capable of shutting down the box from the remote too.
Regarding the ID of the TV shows, I haven't tested the manual approach, but I can say that I downloaded the last couple of episodes from Fringe, Terranova and The Big Bang Theory and they got added with no problem. When I check the manual ID bit I will report, I had it before (when I had 1.5) but I had not done the Factory reset bit the first time so I'll see....

[Prizm]

I never had these problems, but it could be due to the known database problems of upgrading to v1.5 from some older firmware without using a 'Factory Restore' in between.

Actually I may be wrong about the sleep mode issue, but the shutdown problem still stands - and that was with a factory reset. One of three things can happen when I push the power button on the Boxee:

- It shuts down ok, though takes a little bit longer than it used to before the betas

- The screen goes blank, but the boxee light stays on (I think may even go yellow)

- Or nothing happens at all when I push the power button. There's just no reaction unless I hold the button down for 5 seconds, then it shuts down.

I know they're working on the bug, so I'm not too concerned right now.

[mRYellow]

Actually I may be wrong about the sleep mode issue, but the shutdown problem still stands - and that was with a factory reset. One of three things can happen when I push the power button on the Boxee:

- It shuts down ok, though takes a little bit longer than it used to before the betas

- The screen goes blank, but the boxee light stays on (I think may even go yellow)

- Or nothing happens at all when I push the power button. There's just no reaction unless I hold the button down for 5 seconds, then it shuts down.

I know they're working on the bug, so I'm not too concerned right now.

Problem exist. I have the same issue. Before i went to 1.5 i did the factory reset. Original 1.5 had no issues shutting down.

I love the speed of the new update but shutting down boxee is still a major issue IMO.

[myvegas]

I have the same issue. Sometimes shutdown button keeps logo in yellow but Boxee will not turn off. You have to keep pressing the button until it shutdown.

It happened to after playing some flac music or videos.

[rogier80]

Basic Mediaplayer Function: Playing an mp3 (or FLAC, WAV) files from your NAS without stuttering

@Marcel:

Why are you guys not fixing this rather basic function?


Bought this box Saturday, and I am really stunned by this fact.... :(

[darcilicious]

I don't have stuttering with my mp3/flac files from my WHS. Could there be a configuration setting in your NAS that needs to be tweaked? Are you accessing those audio files via SMB, UPnP or NFS?

[rogier80]

I don't have stuttering with my mp3/flac files from my WHS. Could there be a configuration setting in your NAS that needs to be tweaked? Are you accessing those audio files via SMB, UPnP or NFS?

Here you can read that there are many people who are experiencing the same issue as I am discribing. Are you familiar with this issue?
I am using SMB

Please tell me, what can I do to my Synology NAS that makes playing music files go without stutter!

Here is a video 'showing' it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xZ7lyldVWI


PS. When I select the Boys2Men song you shortly hear a small piece of the previous song I played. Please fix that to.

[eperdi]

Thanks for the comment, I did a factory reset and then the box upgraded automatically to 1.5 after that I applied the patch and I can say so far that I do not have the shut donw issue either, and I was capable of shutting down the box from the remote too.
Regarding the ID of the TV shows, I haven't tested the manual approach, but I can say that I downloaded the last couple of episodes from Fringe, Terranova and The Big Bang Theory and they got added with no problem. When I check the manual ID bit I will report, I had it before (when I had 1.5) but I had not done the Factory reset bit the first time so I'll see....

Confirmed, the manual ID of TV shows it's faulty, I hope they fix that soon, it's not a major inconvenience but it spoils the box experience a bit

[soundoftheground]

Confirmed, the manual ID of TV shows it's faulty, I hope they fix that soon, it's not a major inconvenience but it spoils the box experience a bit

it's a major inconvenience when it seems the majority of episodes i add to my sources have incomplete or incorrect metadata upon boxee's automated scanning and identifying. having to open a ticket to get it corrected on their Db then having to either manually id (which you can't) or remove the files, scan, re-add the files and scan again are the only options.

team boxee - i've asked this in jira before and never been answered : why is it that tv episodes that have correct metadata several episodes into the future on thetvdb.com still cannot be id'd correctly or completely using your Db? i understand you pull info from thetvdb daily - do you not pull all available metadata for ongoing shows at once? how is it that a tv show with everything correct on thetvdb 5 eps into the future (or even the full season) cannot get it right for the current ep or eps in the past?

having people open tickets to tell you to correct your Db is not a bug that should have to be addressed repeatedly every week - it's a failure of a key component of your product and needs to be fixed. you guys really need to take a close look at your id processes and stop ignoring users questions and concerns.

[adiatric]

I don't have any issue with shutdown.

[Chuck_IV]

I am using SMB

Please tell me, what can I do to my Synology NAS that makes playing music files go without stutter!


SMB is most likely the root of your problem. I don't know what Boxee has done to SMB but it seems way too many people are having issues when using SMB these days.

Try using NFS if you can. That may clear things up.

[pkline]

I would like to say that since my last post and the last upgrade. I have had very little buffering issues. It has been just over a week and the only file that had an issue was an .mkv file so it was fairly large.

Thank you, it made me very happy.

Once in a while boxee box will not close down but I can live with that. That really is the only problem I have now. No SMB problems. As for the cosmetics I just go with the flow and learn how to get around every time I upgrade.

[adiatric]

I have buffering. Issue on boxee on nfs. Ut on smb work. Dune doesn't have this problem on nfs

[rasmuskamp]

Hello, i am new here and have just recived my Boxee Box and am loveing it but i cant get the subtitles search to work.

So i Searched the forum and fond this post "Bug fix Beta Firmware 1.5.0.23643(1st February))" where the matter has been resolved but i can not download the bug fix, the link dose not work. Since the thread was closed i followed the related topics to here and that is why im writing in this thread.

I am hoping someone can point me in the direction of the bug fix because i would like to use stable firmware and avoid betas.

Thanks in advance.

Rasmus

[soundoftheground]

Hello, i am new here and have just recived my Boxee Box and am loveing it but i cant get the subtitles search to work.

So i Searched the forum and fond this post "Bug fix Beta Firmware 1.5.0.23643(1st February))" where the matter has been resolved but i can not download the bug fix, the link dose not work. Since the thread was closed i followed the related topics to here and that is why im writing in this thread.

I am hoping someone can point me in the direction of the bug fix because i would like to use stable firmware and avoid betas.

Thanks in advance.

Rasmus

use the firmware in the first post of this thread.

[mRYellow]

I don't have any issue with shutdown.

The problem occurs after extended use.

[HvB83]

Installed the update a few days ago. Gotta say I'm happy with the results. No more crashing, no shutdown errors (never had them anyway, tbh). Personally I like the show thumbs size.

Now hopefully Intel/Boxee brings us the update that will finally solve the HD-audio dropout issue and library crawling will be better. Than I'm perfectly happy once more.

BTW, really digging the regular updates right now. It's good to see the Boxee team seems to be communicating with their customers way better than they did in the past.

[marcel]

@HvB83 thanks ..Enjoy

[adiatric]

The problem occurs after extended use.

I used one day nonstop, and no issue with shutdown.
And what's the problem?
Use magic button: Reset :)

[mRYellow]

I used one day nonstop, and no issue with shutdown.
And what's the problem?
Use magic button: Reset :)

As said many times before. The boxee doesn't shutdown occasionally.
Screen will go black with boxee logo changing to a slightly yellow colour.

My box is Ver A2.

Apart from this issue for me this FW release is the best.

Keep it up Team boxee :)

[cheadstina]

Seems like a quite good version. Just super annoying that dvd resume doesn't work anymore.

DVD iso resume not working http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-12304

I don't suffer from the shutdown problem. I shutdown the boxee box every day.

[denox]

Not sure if this issue relevant with this update, but I am having weak signal issue. Signal coming from cable (not antenna) so signal disruption is not an issue.
When I watch live tv, BB randomly showing weak signal and stuck on that screen. I have to reboot reboot BB to get out from the screen.

[darcilicious]

Signal coming from cable (not antenna) so signal disruption is not an issue.Not necessarily; bad coax cable or bad splitter could cause signal disruption.

Also, it's best to just post all your related issues (Live TV) in one thread (instead of two or more) so all your info and the responses are in one place...

[soundoftheground]

The problem occurs after extended use.

define extended use.

[mRYellow]

define extended use.

lol, just watching MKVs. I leave it one for 20+ hours.

[BarryB]

This is far from stable but it is a beta. One bug I have noticed is the following. I have favorite apps as standard menu and the most used apps are shown in that order. I have the erotic content on but no apps of that sort in the favorite menu.

I have noticed however that after using Youporn the app showed up in the favorite apps. Quite embarrassing that the other family members can see what I am up too. You can laugh about it and I can too. ;)

This bug should still be solved in the final release.

[a_team]

Yup, my audio gets VERY loud randomly... This coupled with my previous bug of Netflix Audio that gets temporarily louder randomly made for some blasting of south park in the condo unit today. Volume went from 20 to 6.

Facebook is also FUBAR and no longer updating the friends video list. Good luck guys

[adiatric]

I think that we must include also witch version of boxee we use, what is the temperature of boxee and which hdmi cable and tv we use.


1. Boxee Box Version A1
2. Original Boxee HDMI Cable
3. Panasonic P42G20 Neopdp.
4. 1080p24
5. Temperature : 65

[overhaze]

Have a bug here. TV Series that are not automatically assigned meta date by Boxee can't be identified manually. You can go through the identification prossess select the right season and episode but when you select done it doesn't take. The episode just stays there in unidentified.

[marcel]

Is this happening with all TV shows?

[mbryanr]

@marcel - Manual ID bug
http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-12527
http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-12608
http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-12533

[marcel]

Thanks ..we are fixing these issues ..i tried this http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-12608 and it is now working ..please can others try and manually add them and see if it is working if not please make a list of the shows and episodes and i will personally try and get them all working

[yoos]

marcel, this issue exists when using nfo's too. For shows that all worked for me before and nothing changed on my side since the previous fw where it worked.

[LeoBauberger]

The same issue as above is currently here too.
I'm doing re-scan's all the time when I add even a single tv episode of my shows, wich is extremely 'painful' :/
Otherwise, this fw is great :)

[mbryanr]

Exactly what @yoos said. -12527 and -12533 reflect the problem with nfo file identification. with the last two beta firmware. Reverting back to the released firmware results in successful manual identification with no other changes.

[yoos]

and a lot of my shows are off the wall stuff or personal stuff that is just not going to be, nor should be, in boxees database. The issue has nothing to do with not finding something in boxees database.

[Ronald]

Thanks ..we are fixing these issues ..i tried this http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-12608 and it is now working ..please can others try and manually add them and see if it is working if not please make a list of the shows and episodes and i will personally try and get them all working
I'm afraid you've completely missed the point of this problem. :(
(So far that is, but hopefully you'll soon 'catch up' :))

You can find a lot more details about it in the comments on ticket 12533:
http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-12533

The even older ticket is EA-only, so some of us with useful feedback can't give any there.

Here I'll just repeat some key points:

This is not a problem specific to any one TV show, it affects all !!!
It's also not specific to either NFO or online search, it affects both !!!

And it's not the identification, by NFO or online search, that fails.
On the contrary, the identification has succeeded for each of my tests, by both methods.

For each such case the show was identified with the correct cover picture displayed in the dialog box,
together with the correct season and episode numbers.

It's the linking of the found episode to its show that fails, after the user clicks "Done" to close the identification dialog.
So that linking is what needs to be fixed.

Some of the debug logs indicate that a structure pointer needed for this linking has been zeroed somehow,
thus making the linking through this pointer impossible. (And all the implied struct contents void and invalid.)

So that's the kind of bug to look for in the source code.

Best regards: dlanor

[yoos]

Yes, EXACTLY what Ronald just said... It asks me to choose my nfo, I do, it appears like everything worked ok, but then it doesn't...

I thought the comments in the tickets made it clear what the issue was imo anyways...

[magnus33]

I hope to god that some of that 16 million goes to hiring coders and getting this ongoing soap opera of a firmware fixed.

Its becomes its own on running punchline.

[spcano01]

16M? Haha! Microsoft and Apple have these similar issues...you expect Boxee who is barely hanging on be able to accomplish something that the largest in pure market capital company in the world cannot do?

Not to be a kiss ass, but Thanks Team Boxee. This is now a 14 mo old product, and we're still getting constant updates. Perhaps some come out too often, but so goes software development. Some Multi-million dollar games come completely broken on release day...

I still have 5 boxes and am enjoying them thoroughly. Totally backup this latest identification bug thing though. But seriously, it WILL be fixed and it takes a couple of hours while I'm sleeping to identify my 1500 movies with nfo, and 120 tv shows with seasons *without nfos* no problem.

Nothing worth freaking the f!ck out about.

Now my box that just died!?!?! I'm freaking...hopefully dlink will allow the replacement without denying it to me not finding receipt. :z

[wuench]

I am sure a lot of it isn't even their code, it's probably open source libraries for things like SMB, NFS, etc. For those it just comes down to configuration/tuning and testing. For issues like that if they would just expose some advanced settings we can probably put our heads together and fix it ourselves. You can't really create a one-sized-fits-all solution that is going to work with all the other gear out there.

[Scratchy2000]

I've reached my limit with the recent FW and wonder if people can suggest what seems to be the previous FW that works the best and also where I can download it since I was not able to find a comprehensive list of previous FW downloads. Suggestions and help greatly appreciated.

[magnus33]

16M? Haha! Microsoft and Apple have these similar issues...you expect Boxee who is barely hanging on be able to accomplish something that the largest in pure market capital company in the world cannot do?

Not to be a kiss ass, but Thanks Team Boxee. This is now a 14 mo old product, and we're still getting constant updates. Perhaps some come out too often, but so goes software development. Some Multi-million dollar games come completely broken on release day...

I still have 5 boxes and am enjoying them thoroughly. Totally backup this latest identification bug thing though. But seriously, it WILL be fixed and it takes a couple of hours while I'm sleeping to identify my 1500 movies with nfo, and 120 tv shows with seasons *without nfos* no problem.

Nothing worth freaking the f!ck out about.

Now my box that just died!?!?! I'm freaking...hopefully dlink will allow the replacement without denying it to me not finding receipt. :z

What the heck are you smoking?

Neither Microsoft or Apple has these problems!

Microsoft doesn't have a streaming box to begin with (xbox does this but its not its primary function).
Apple does have a streaming box and it just works as advertised.
It does what it promises to do without issues.

Boxee well over the year mark out of the gate and its still got issues all over the place and each new firmware ad's more.

Now if your comparing boxee firmware to Microsoft and apples Operating system then we need to stage a intervention for you.
Boxee code runs into the thousands and the later two's os run into the many millions.

But the best comparison is XMBC to boxee.
Boxee is based on xmbc but the later is open source and isn't part of a company receiving millions.
Yet xmbc been overhauled and works better then boxee firmware.

Now the common person can see whats wrong with that picture but hey if your happy with a product that gets many new bugs with every firmware thats up to you.

Just don't expect many to be going along with that way of thinking

[Sneckster]

@marcel I'm quite shocked to find out you are only just hearing of and starting to understand this problem when people on this forum have even tracked down the boxeeid fault in the logs that seems to be the cause.

As other have said its not a problem with the files not being in a database or named wrong it is a problem with boxee adding the files once you have told it what they are.

For instance I had Being Human named Being_Human so instead of renaming it I tried a manual ID and it let me choose the file but it just never showed up under tv shows. After renaming the actual file I tried again... and again it failed to show up. I then ran an autoscan and it found AND added it.

The same for Blackadder, an auto scan found it but a manual ID didn't even though it was named correctly.

I also have The River which the auto scan thinks is a film of that name but I can't manual ID it as the TV show that IS in the database because it lets me click it and then doesn't bother adding it to the TV Shows section.

[magnus33]

Clearly testing is not being done or not being done correctly according to common practice.
You make a firmware and it has so many functions.

You make a checklist of those functions

You go through the firmware to see if each of these work.

Firmwares being limited in there scope this is easily done unlike say a OS which requires a different more board testing method.

If at any point and time they tested the firmware like they should be doing these constant stream of bugs wouldn't be happening.

Its painfully clear this is not happening though and i be really interested in knowing why.

[1ne2woBe]

Clearly testing is not being done or not being done correctly according to common practice.
You make a firmware and it has so many functions.

You make a checklist of those functions

You go through the firmware to see if each of these work.

Firmwares being limited in there scope this is easily done unlike say a OS which requires a different more board testing method.

If at any point and time they tested the firmware like they should be doing these constant stream of bugs wouldn't be happening.

Its painfully clear this is not happening though and i be really interested in knowing why.
Yea... but at least they were able to get it 'good enough' for the Live TV dongle sales. :rolleyes:

[mbryanr]

I

Here I'll just repeat some key points:

This is not a problem specific to any one TV show, it affects all !!!
It's also not specific to either NFO or online search, it affects both !!!

And it's not the identification, by NFO or online search, that fails.
On the contrary, the identification has succeeded for each of my tests, by both methods.

For each such case the show was identified with the correct cover picture displayed in the dialog box,
together with the correct season and episode numbers.

It's the linking of the found episode to its show that fails, after the user clicks "Done" to close the identification dialog.
So that linking is what needs to be fixed.





As other have said its not a problem with the files not being in a database or named wrong it is a problem with boxee adding the files once you have told it what they are.

For instance I had Being Human named Being_Human so instead of renaming it I tried a manual ID and it let me choose the file but it just never showed up under tv shows. After renaming the actual file I tried again... and again it failed to show up. I then ran an autoscan and it found AND added it.

The same for Blackadder, an auto scan found it but a manual ID didn't even though it was named correctly.

I don't like to be repetitive, but I'm somewhat perplexed why this issue cannot be understood by the developers .:confused:

Here is the error code, and confirming Ronald's theory on a dB link getting lost. The first line shows a successful identification, which the user sees as the episode information appears with coverart, then the identification appears to complete normally. Navigate to the TV show and no new episode. :( The last highlighted lines show why.


23:20:31.1401#DEBUG#bxvideodatabase.cpp:1139(AddVi deo)#BXVideoDatabase::AddVideo, Adding video, title Nobody's Fault, path smb://TOWER/movies/TV/House MD/Season 08/House.S08E11.mkv
18:20:31.141 T:2946333584 M:516247552 DEBUG: Boxee: 07/02/12 23:20:31.1417#DEBUG#bxvideodatabase.cpp:1180(AddVi deo)#Add series, title = House (videodb)
18:20:31.142 T:2946333584 M:516247552 DEBUG: Boxee: 07/02/12 23:20:31.1425#DEBUG#bxvideodatabase.cpp:1204(AddVi deo)#Could not add series, boxee id is empty, title = House
18:20:31.143 T:2946333584 M:516247552 ERROR: CGUIDialogBoxeeManualResolve::AddMovie, unable to add video to database, path = smb://TOWER/movies/TV/House MD/Season 08/House.S08E11.mkv (manual)
18:20:31.143 T:2946333584 M:516247552 DEBUG: Thread 2946333584 terminating

[Ronald]

I've reached my limit with the recent FW and wonder if people can suggest what seems to be the previous FW that works the best and also where I can download it since I was not able to find a comprehensive list of previous FW downloads. Suggestions and help greatly appreciated.
The only decent v1.5 variant available is v1.5.0.23615, since the manual ID method works in that version, unlike in the later betas.

For pre-v1.5 versions, I consider the best choice to be the latest one, which is v1.2.2.20482.
But a lot of people with SMB stutters or other problems insist on much older versions.

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@magnus33:
You are of course entitled to your opinions and to express them, but this particular thread is not a good choice for some of the posts you made here recently, since they had nothing to do with questions about or feedback on the specific firmware which is the thread topic here.

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@marcel I'm quite shocked to find out you are only just hearing of and starting to understand this problem when people on this forum have even tracked down the boxeeid fault in the logs that seems to be the cause.
You are probably disregarding the fact that he may have been assigned other tasks as part of his work, which we know next to nothing about, and has only had limited time to also scan some of our posts here (which are not few in number, when you include all threads).

Whatever, let us not criticize him for taking the time now, even though we all wish he could have done it sooner. Even so, better now than never...!


I also have The River which the auto scan thinks is a film of that name but I can't manual ID it as the TV show that IS in the database because it lets me click it and then doesn't bother adding it to the TV Shows section.
You can always do what I did last night, which is to reinstall 1.5.0.23615 from USB, using the recovery menu.

That version doesn't have the ID linking bug, and since you're only switching between two v1.5 variants there's no need for 'Factory Restore' or any other complications.

It doesn't take very long to do, and you can always switch back afterwards by the same method (after updating your list with new episodes), in case you need any of the latest beta improvements. As for myself, I'll probably stay on the 'stable' version until a new version is released (beta or not), as I think I've made enough tests with currently available betas.

Best regards: Ronald

[spcano01]

What the heck are you smoking?

Neither Microsoft or Apple has these problems!

Ok...anyone armed with internet access can lookup Microsoft and Google + Bugs/buggy, and find they have these issues in almost every release. Not just on core OS, but on things as small as apps.

Microsoft doesn't have a streaming box to begin with (xbox does this but its not its primary function).
Apple does have a streaming box and it just works as advertised.
It does what it promises to do without issues.

Again, do a simple search on Apple TV bugs, and you'll see that they release bug patches as quickly as days many times in the recent history... Twice you're wrong.

Boxee well over the year mark out of the gate and its still got issues all over the place and each new firmware ad's more.

First part is true, second seems a bit emo. Yes, there are regressive bugs and new ones, but also the opposite is true. New functionality, new features, and bug fixes. You just seem a bit focused on one side of it.

Now if your comparing boxee firmware to Microsoft and apples Operating system then we need to stage a intervention for you.
Boxee code runs into the thousands and the later two's os run into the many millions.

That's not comparing their R&D, testing budgets or basic salary comparisons. The comparison easily holds, but for rational people.

But the best comparison is XMBC to boxee.
Boxee is based on xmbc but the later is open source and isn't part of a company receiving millions.
Yet xmbc been overhauled and works better then boxee firmware.

Best and only point you make in this post.

Now the common person can see whats wrong with that picture but hey if your happy with a product that gets many new bugs with every firmware thats up to you.

I'm plenty happy for my $200 investment x5, but if you're not, why waste time here when you have Apple TV and XBMC? Do you usually wallow in things that make you angry? Seems silly to me...

Just don't expect many to be going along with that way of thinking

Yes, some people don't think at all...they emote.

[yoos]

Clearly testing is not being done or not being done correctly according to common practice.
You make a firmware and it has so many functions.

You make a checklist of those functions

You go through the firmware to see if each of these work.

Firmwares being limited in there scope this is easily done unlike say a OS which requires a different more board testing method.

If at any point and time they tested the firmware like they should be doing these constant stream of bugs wouldn't be happening.

Its painfully clear this is not happening though and i be really interested in knowing why.

Yes! This! So many people say it's a developer problem, when I agree with this and believe it's a testing problem. The testing will help identify developer issues as well as prevent new bugs from being released. In addition it's a Management problem as Management should ensure the releases happen without certain bugs..

On the other note, I wasn't so much shocked that it appeared the identifying show bug wasn't understood, I was disappointed... It seems like so many people provided so much info on it... It makes me wonder why even do jira because what's the point? Outside of trying to help people when I can, I personally provide all my input because I want Boxee to succeed as it has so much potential and I get really concerned it won't succeed due to Management decisions and lack of sufficient testing. Boxee can do things other boxes can't, but if some of the competition gets more features and doesn't have these issues, boxee is in for trouble...

[wuench]

I totally agree, testing is not being done as it should. But this is also not really firmware. It's a Linux ISO (right?), so there is an OS with a bajillion settings. Yes they should be testing their code for functionality in their code, but they are never going to be able to test and ensure something like movie streaming works from every PC/OS/NAS out there running every version of OS/Firmware/etc.

They should test and they should test with as many platforms as they can. But they would be doing themselves and us both a favor if they also give us recommended platforms/OS's that they know work and also give us access to some of the OS settings so we can come up with solutions. For example, NFS does not perform well for me on any Boxee version with my NAS. But if I had access to the NFS client settings I am pretty sure I could resolve it, probably SMB too. And post the solution for all other users who have a SPARC based ReadyNAS. That's the point of a forum, a place where users can support each other. But doing it with a closed platform and few tweakable settings makes that pretty much impossible. That's why all the solutions around here collapse to, "works for me" or "I have that problem too" or "check your network".

[CaptainRewind]

Cannot skip audio tracks (mp3 mainly) when playing video and audio



Do you mean mp3 "seeking" perhaps? This is a problem I'm having... where trying to seek in an mp3 file once the OSD disappears actually skips instead of seeking. Is there a Jira bug on this? I searched for that phrase on Jira and couldn't find it. I'd like to read up on it to see if it's my issue before I upgrade to this version, or if somebody here know please reply.




Video too slow, sound normal, playback unwatchable; AVI MSMPEG4 Video with mp3 Audio



This was actually fixed in 1.5.0.23643, which is what I'm currently running. I was the person who filed that particular bug, so once it was resolved I installed 1.5.0.23643 right away.

If 1.5.1.23679 fixes my audio seek issue above, I'm going to definitely install it! Please let me know, thanks.

[AminB]

" 'good enough' "

I think Boxee can/will do this, till there's an alternative box in the market. That's what happens when there's no REAL competition...

[magnus33]

Yes, some people don't think at all...they emote.

Ohh boy save me from fools.

Lets start with apple.
Yes like any other box apple has had bugs and thats the only thing you actually got correct.
Take a look at apple track record or WD TV live or roku and you see a quick and steady progression of fixes to the point where they perform well.
Boxee not so much, every fix introduces more bugs.


Boxee over the year mark:
Did you even bother to read this thread or look in this forum?
Forget about new features some of the basics don't work properly and never have, which has nothing to do with new features.


As for comparison:
What? Your kidding right?
This is one box with very limited hardware and a relatively small amount of code by todays hardware standards
Code that people with no paying jobs and doing it in their spare time got to work far better then boxee has.
See rational people understand that if you got 16 million dollars you should be able to hire full-time coders to do a better job then a few people doing work in their spare time.


Be happy:
Actually believe it or not i am happy you happy with your boxee's .

But like many people here i am not happy that i have a piece of hardware that doesn't work as advertised.
I wouldn't be happy if the breaks on my new car didn't work and the lights didn't turn on either.

But posting comments like you did in the bug section and telling people how they should or should not react tends not to go over well.