View Full Version : Options For "Unitentified" Videos?
JasperKJ
November 12th, 2010, 09:00 AM
I have a few shows and movies that are listed as "Unidentified" and even if I do the search (identify), "no results found" or different titles come up. I know these are on IMDB because if I search the site via PC, they show up with poster art and all, but nothing via the Boxee Box.
What can I do with these, there is no option to manually categorize them is there? I just want them showing up in the movies or shows list.
ZIPNVW
November 12th, 2010, 09:02 AM
I have the same problems. There is nothing we can do for now.
haveringcottage
November 12th, 2010, 09:04 AM
how are your files named?
I know renaming the files themselves is not the most convenient solution but mine are all named:
Film name (Year).avi
or
TV Show - S01E01.avi
and they are all identified fine (and i have 600 movies+ a ridiculous amount of TV). Search IMDB and make sure yours are named the same and they should scrape OK.
newboxeeuser
November 12th, 2010, 09:14 AM
I have a few shows and movies that are listed as "Unidentified" and even if I do the search (identify), "no results found" or different titles come up. I know these are on IMDB because if I search the site via PC, they show up with poster art and all, but nothing via the Boxee Box.
What can I do with these, there is no option to manually categorize them is there? I just want them showing up in the movies or shows list.
Did they get found by .9 version on your PC/other Boxee system and just now broke on Boxee Box ? If so that's another broken/missing feature.
haveringcottage
November 12th, 2010, 09:16 AM
i would find it hard to believe (and completely ridiculous if its the case) that the scraping abilities of boxee have worsened in the 1.0
Why would the devs make code worse!?!!:confused:
daver77
November 12th, 2010, 09:39 AM
Why would the devs make code worse!?!!:confused:
Why indeed. Then again, they seem to have made it worse everywhere else :D
JasperKJ
November 12th, 2010, 11:43 AM
how are your files named?
I know renaming the files themselves is not the most convenient solution but mine are all named:
Film name (Year).avi
or
TV Show - S01E01.avi
and they are all identified fine (and i have 600 movies+ a ridiculous amount of TV). Search IMDB and make sure yours are named the same and they should scrape OK.
Yeah, I name my the same way. The thing is the search just doesn't find the programs in IMDB for some reason. I even input it exactly the same way it's listed in IMDB via PC.
For example: my Boxee Box search can't find "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer & the Island of Misfit Toys". Yes, I have kids. :p
Will anyone else's?
amheck
November 12th, 2010, 12:31 PM
Hence the reason we really need the ability to use local cover art and meta data. I have kids, too, and have a lot of Scooby Doo, Bob the Builder, iCarly, that sort of thing. All of it is not on IMDB, so those movies don't even show up if you aren't given the option to not use IMDB.
redlandmover
November 12th, 2010, 01:48 PM
+1 on this. the ability for local nfo/art/metadata is a needed feature
<add this to lists of XBMC does this, boxee doesnt gripe list>
ripper2982
November 12th, 2010, 02:07 PM
+1 for local folder art and meta data.
+1 for a way to manually identify files without need for imdb info.
met_fan
November 12th, 2010, 06:32 PM
Yeah, I name my the same way. The thing is the search just doesn't find the programs in IMDB for some reason. I even input it exactly the same way it's listed in IMDB via PC.
For example: my Boxee Box search can't find "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer & the Island of Misfit Toys". Yes, I have kids. :p
Will anyone else's?
Ha...mine actually found that. I have it named as Rudolph_The_Red-Nosed_Reindeer_(1964).mpeg. I have some others it can't find, though.
haveringcottage
November 13th, 2010, 03:09 AM
-1 on the local data and images...boxee has never done this and i dont see the need to.
as long as we can manually resolve individual files, this sorts out your problem :)
ripper2982
November 13th, 2010, 02:31 PM
-1 on the local data and images...boxee has never done this and i dont see the need to.
I have to strongly disagree with you on the local data and images. As has been mentioned before elsewhere, Boxee doesn't always pull the correct image or doesn't pull an image at all in some cases. In the case that it can't find the cover art it simply crops a scene out of the movie for the icon and the ones it can find isn't always the correct one. Case in point I have several movies that it pulls the Spanish cover art for them instead of the English one.
As far as always pulling the cover art from the web, some of us have spent great deals of time downloading the cover art and indexing it with our own meta data.
I think that Boxee should have enough respect to look first if the folder has a "folder.jpg" which is the industry standard and the meta data before going to fetch it from the web. Heck even Popbox get's that right even though that's about all it can get right.
obelix74
November 13th, 2010, 07:09 PM
+1 for local folder art and meta data.
+1 for a way to manually identify files without need for imdb info.
JerryCasanova
November 13th, 2010, 07:20 PM
Agreed. I want this too.
+1 on this. the ability for local nfo/art/metadata is a needed feature
<add this to lists of XBMC does this, boxee doesnt gripe list>
eldepeche
November 13th, 2010, 07:26 PM
I'm with ripper on this one. What bugs me the most about Boxee is media recognition. It's perfect for 98% of files, but the other 2% it's worthless.
It was my understanding that Boxee purchased/licensed a copy of the IMDB database, but there are several movies in my library that are present on IMDB and either missing or listed differently when I search for their entries in Boxee. This inconsistent behavior is really aggravating.
It would be great to have the database available to view on the web, and be able to make suggestions for better art, titles, &c.
jerms415
November 13th, 2010, 07:34 PM
Local art and .nfo support is painfully needed, especially now that we know the Boxee Box tries to scrape every time you turn it on. Their servers must be getting pounded.
I just don't understand the logic to not add this feature.
jtown
November 13th, 2010, 09:23 PM
This is something that Boxee really needs to address. I'm a bit surprised that manual identification still doesn't work very well and has no "pick it from a list" fallback when episode identification fails. Also, users need to be able to provide their own artwork and "episode info" because not all content is commercially produced. I'm never going to be able to get the program description and artwork for "Family Reunion 2007" but does that mean I should have to dig down through network shares to find it? And I don't want to change the filenames of my videos because I've got some oddball stuff that's not available commercially and changing the titles would kill my ability to share them via 'torrent.
If I identify the title and Boxee still can't figure out the episode, I should be given the option of picking the episode from a list rather than be forced to rename every file, wait through another scan, check to make sure it matched this time, etc.
I realize Boxee's financial priority is partnerships with content providers but, for me, those features are secondary. My primary use for this box is to provide a small, quiet playback device for the 10tb or so of video content that I have. Internet features are totally secondary to me.
ripper2982
November 15th, 2010, 06:18 PM
got an update back from avner on the local meta data and images. apparently this will be added in a future update:
http://forums.boxee.tv/showpost.php?p=121925&postcount=45
jerms415
November 16th, 2010, 10:32 PM
got an update back from avner on the local meta data and images. apparently this will be added in a future update:
http://forums.boxee.tv/showpost.php?p=121925&postcount=45
Wow! That's great news. I feel much more confident in my Boxee Box purchase now.
JasperKJ
November 25th, 2010, 08:06 PM
The new update hasn't addressed this has it? I'd like to categorize the handful of unidentified videos I have.
kr1z
January 14th, 2011, 06:11 AM
Still not working with SP 3 fof me.
arucaria
January 27th, 2011, 02:31 PM
Upgraded to RC2 (SP3) when prompted.
Today my SMB shares became disconnected. Tried several things, re-starting, re-entering network info, disabling firewall etc. In the end removed/re added sources.
The scraping is even worse than it has been in previous versions!!!
My files are all named correctly using theRenamer.
Boxee Box never found some shows (even though they are on imdb) which I can live with until nfo is implemented, but now it's dumping random episodes from series into unidentified files!
pdawg17
January 27th, 2011, 02:35 PM
All of the problem movies I had were fixed by simply adding the year in () after the movie name...
arucaria
January 27th, 2011, 09:53 PM
Thanks for the advice pdawg. I know there's a little something funny going on as I encountered the same problem when I tried the RC2 before it went public. It screwed up the entire library, so i reverted to SP2. Problem was reverted.
(maybe I should have mentioned that in my first post, but didn't want to get too deep into the weeds.)
Taking your advice I used reNamer this afternoon to add the year to all my movies. Then I had to re-name all my tbn files to match. Removed the Source folder, and then rescanned it in.
Dozens of movies are still missing. Not even strangley titled ones. Yes Man, The Proposal, Zombieland.
Be interested to know if anyone has encountered scraping issues in SP3. I have a second box that didn't lose it's SMB connection. It is functioning "normally".
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