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Notorious J.E.W
November 11th, 2010, 08:06 PM
Hey Everyone,

I have been playing with my boxee box for a few hours so I figured I would put up a review of what I have experienced so far.

First the good:

I love the size/shape and build of the physical box - some people don't like the shape, but I like the creativeness.
I LOVE the remote - it's simple and to the point and the QWERTY on the back is a great touch. Only complaint is I wish it was backlit and maybe there was a dedicated home and menu button since the "menu" button acts as a back button more than anything and there is no home button.
I love how easy it was to get my video files recognized and working flawlessly - now let me say that I do not use any BD ISO's so I cannot confirm nor deny there is an issue with that. But all my DVD rips in many different formats played back flawlessly.

I love that you can just type in and it automatically brings up the web/search bar which is a nice touch to find things fast. It works in a lot of apps but not all and especially not while viewing your own media.

Content Content Content. There is so much content on this thing it's amazing! I haven't even used 1/4 of the apps on it yet, just the main ones to see how they worked and overall they work well.

The system itself boots up pretty quick (under a minute easily) and loads right into the main menu which is simplified now due to 1.0.

Now on to the bad...and unfortunately there is a lot of bad.

First, I like others am not a fan of the 1.0 interface. I get that its supposed to easy and simplified but by doing that it kind of lost some of the boxee design charm that was there. I hope they either bring back the old interface or tweak the hell out of the new one.

the webkit browser is pretty bad. It browses to pages well but its hard as hell to navigate. There is a mouse cursor and you use your error keys to move it - takes forever! I have no idea why its not like google chrome is on a laptop, all you use is arrow keys and it works flawlessly. The other issue is webpages are WAY too small to view - it loads the whole page in view. A zoom shortcut on the remote would be key here similar to double tapping on a mobile phone.

One of the things I hate most about this is how poorly it handles some of the video apps. For example, I decided to try to load an episode of Entourage through spike tv that was found through browsing popular TV shows in the UI. All it does is load spike.com and the specific page with that video - it does autoplay but on a webpage so now you either have to move the mouse cursor to enlarge it to full screen or if you hit the menu button it brings up the web bar where you can click on to make it full screen - is it me or shouldn't this be DEFAULT? If I want to watch entourage I don't want to see spiktvs website, I want to see entourage in full screen, seamlessly. After I make it full screen I see white bars on the bottom and right of the screen which is annoying. I tried a few video apps such as MTV and its the same story although at full screen it fits better.

I hate I can't just go to the main menu while a video is still in the background. That was one of the things I loved about the old UI is navigating through everything was much easier. To go to the main menu you have to keep hitting the back or menu button until you back pedal all the way through - its pretty bad.

Missing content - Justin.TV works through the web but there is no app. Vudu is non functional yet and we all know about hulu and netflix which are bummers but at least will be there eventually.

So all in all for my needs the box is suitable since my main concern was a good way to organize and watch my video files and have some access to online content. If you are an online content power user you will most likely be disappointed with the current version.

Now some of my issues could very well have solutions that I don't know about yet, so if thats the case please let me know of them and I will gladly re-edit my review - but for now this is what I see and how I feel.

I am definitely a fan of the box and boxee.

Boxee definitely has the right foot forward they just need to make some leaps to kick it into full gear.

melll
November 11th, 2010, 08:16 PM
Did you know you are not limited with the Boxee Box as to what you can plug into it!

Try plugging in a USB wireless mouse!

It makes a world of a difference, web browsing on the Boxee Box is actually not bad with a mouse and the remote control, makes for a killer combo!

Check it out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUGoo1J1iYo

Notorious J.E.W
November 11th, 2010, 08:22 PM
yeah I saw that but it defeats the purpose! The remote should have a small touch pad - that would be sick - but yeah to hook up a mouse and sit on my couch is completely against the whole idea of the box.

melll
November 11th, 2010, 09:02 PM
yeah I saw that but it defeats the purpose! The remote should have a small touch pad - that would be sick - but yeah to hook up a mouse and sit on my couch is completely against the whole idea of the box.

If it had what everybody wanted on it...

The price would not be $199...

If I was $249 + it would have been a no buy for me.

Google TV has that touch pad on its keyboard, but the price is 50% higher than that of the Boxee Box at $300

Notorious J.E.W
November 11th, 2010, 09:15 PM
Right, I get that - and I know it would up the cost - but thats not even my big complaint...I could care less about browsing on the web on this thing..I mean if it worked well then cool but not a deal breaker...my biggest hate is that almost all of the video apps load a webpage and do not auto start the video in full screen - which then forced me to use the horrible web browser to enlarge to full screen.

My point is this is supposed to bridge the gap of TV and internet...however as it is right now most of it is no better than plugging a laptop or desktop into your TV, browsing to a website and hitting play on a video.

Again, I love this thing...I am a fan, but I think it needs a lot of work before it does what it's supposed to.

Drone-01
November 11th, 2010, 09:16 PM
BBox - great
BBox Remote.... ehhhh

A. needs an illuminated key pad...
B. would be great with a track pad type thing... maybe like the square on a blackberry.
C. Wish it was heavier... (add the above... hint hint)

burchfield1b
November 11th, 2010, 09:42 PM
I got my Boxee today and have spent 2 hrs trying to get it to run and nothing. It runs and I can navigate, but if I try and download it takes forever to do anything and then it might get to the site but will not play anything. I checked my download speed and I am between 6.5-7 Mb/s. I called tech support and they said that they would call me back with a solution to my problem in about 48 hrs. So I get to wait tow days for a solution, I think I am going to return it for a refund. I really liked the idea, but since I got it I'm really not liking it anymore. The whole thing with Hulu and Netflix also is a bummer and also how it doesn't bridge the gap between tv and internet. I expected more, but so far it's just been a huge disappointment.

hammadurb
November 11th, 2010, 10:15 PM
A. needs an illuminated key pad...
B. would be great with a track pad type thing... maybe like the square on a blackberry.

I second the illuminated keyboard and a track pad. I have a Dinovo Mini on my htpc and it would be cool if I could use that. I hope someone hacks the box so it works with it.

Cheddoleum
November 12th, 2010, 12:16 AM
I'd just like to jump in and say that team Boxee has done a tremendous thing. Yes, the firmware is still pretty beta, some things are missing, a few other things are more or less broken. But I pretty much expected this on the day of release -- it was clear they were pushing very hard to get it into peoples' hands and while they didn't exactly say it'd be buggy they did make it pretty clear that it was going to be an early release, with all that that implies. I read between the lines and am neither surprised nor disappointed.

I'm glad to have it now, in this state, rather than having to wait longer for it to cook more. Apart from no-netflix it does what I wanted it for and is a pretty darn cool thing for $200. I look forward to the firmware updates and the new apps and features and I don't regret buying it for a moment.

Notorious J.E.W
November 12th, 2010, 05:26 AM
I agree 100%

Sure I have some issues and complaints but overall I LOVE the box. I'm sure these guys are working their asses off behind the scenes to stabalize as much as possible. I had a feeling something with so much involved, so many different possibilities there was bound to be a lot that didn't work or work right and eventually will. I'm keeping my box and again am very happy with it and all the work the Boxee team has done!

hdmax
November 12th, 2010, 07:31 PM
The Boxee team had several months more than they had planned when the hardware changed, so why is the software the biggest complaint so far? Software should have been ready a long time ago, added features should have been the focus since about July.
I don't have my box yet, so it is just speculation on my part, but all the bad press here is scaring me, I feel that I will not be keeping it. I had plans of buying several over the next year as gifts, but looks like that will NOT happen. This box may just be another blip in the history of media like the Betamax tape.

ozamalloa
November 13th, 2010, 05:47 PM
do you know if the boxee box supports RMVB video format?
it is kind of confusing, on the list of supported formats is not included, but on some sites list or on the boxee software description is included. So does it support real Media or not?

lweisenb
November 13th, 2010, 07:09 PM
Yes, the firmware is still pretty beta, some things are missing, a few other things are more or less broken. But I pretty much expected this on the day of release --


Really your expectation of a Retail release product is that it would be beta and buggy? Besides the fact that it was delayed, and items that were originally features are now "coming soon".

There are some things I really like about the boxee box and if they can deliver on their promises for the future I think it will be an outstanding combination of hardware/software for the price... Unfortunately I'm afraid this product is a little too rough out of the gate and that could have SERIOUS fallout for both boxee and the early adopters. I can tell you that if anyone else in my family had pre-ordered the boxee and gone through the setup issues most of us have faced, they would be returning and not looking back which is not good for boxee in the long run.

TheWzrdOz
November 14th, 2010, 05:42 AM
Did you know you are not limited with the Boxee Box as to what you can plug into it!

Try plugging in a USB wireless mouse!

It makes a world of a difference, web browsing on the Boxee Box is actually not bad with a mouse and the remote control, makes for a killer combo!

Check it out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUGoo1J1iYo

Thanks for the info on plugging in a wireless mouse; I was wondering if I could use a Logitech diNovo wireless mini keyboard and I'm guessing the answer is yes.

gmd024
November 14th, 2010, 07:41 AM
FYI - In another thread I mentioned that just for S's&G's I plugged a 7 port usb hub into the BBox and had 7 different input/control devices functioning at the same - 5 of them were wireless, plus a wired k-brd and mouse

ozamalloa
November 15th, 2010, 11:36 AM
Sorry to raise again the same subject. can someone try if The Boxee Box can read RMVB video format? This is one of the key features to decide if I buy the box or not.

Thanks

zubero
November 15th, 2010, 12:21 PM
FYI - In another thread I mentioned that just for S's&G's I plugged a 7 port usb hub into the BBox and had 7 different input/control devices functioning at the same - 5 of them were wireless, plus a wired k-brd and mouse

That's just sick man ! AWESOME !

useboxee
December 13th, 2010, 12:07 PM
Sorry to raise again the same subject. can someone try if The Boxee Box can read RMVB video format? This is one of the key features to decide if I buy the box or not.

Thanks

Yes, it does play back rmvb. It's also the reason I bought the boxee box. However, it does not work very well. The audio and video is completely out of synch. The video plays smoothly by itself, indicating a very strong processing power from CE4100 even with software decode. However, d-link failed to implement a stable software to keep both audio and video in sync. If they don't fix this issue in about 2 weeks, I will have to return my box as it is basically useless for me other than taking up precious cabinet space

PhatPhreddy
December 13th, 2010, 07:46 PM
yeah I saw that but it defeats the purpose! The remote should have a small touch pad - that would be sick - but yeah to hook up a mouse and sit on my couch is completely against the whole idea of the box.

http://usb.brando.com/rii-mini-bluetooth-keyboard-with-touchpad_p01765c036d015.html

How about adding this as a complementary remote..

Its only a hair bigger than the boxee remote.. I am getting one for HTPC duty. standard keyb and mouse drivers so works with any OS.

xavier32178
December 13th, 2010, 08:21 PM
http://usb.brando.com/rii-mini-bluetooth-keyboard-with-touchpad_p01765c036d015.html

How about adding this as a complementary remote..

Its only a hair bigger than the boxee remote.. I am getting one for HTPC duty. standard keyb and mouse drivers so works with any OS.

Here is a cheaper one :) http://www.amazon.com/2-4GHz-Wireless-Keyboard-TouchPad-Pointer/dp/B003I60MBU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1291596069&sr=8-2

PhatPhreddy
December 13th, 2010, 08:31 PM
Nice.. thats the same one..

xavier32178
December 14th, 2010, 05:39 AM
Nice.. thats the same one..

Nothing beats saving some money;)

useboxee
December 14th, 2010, 08:43 PM
Yes, it does play back rmvb. It's also the reason I bought the boxee box. However, it does not work very well. The audio and video is completely out of synch. The video plays smoothly by itself, indicating a very strong processing power from CE4100 even with software decode. However, d-link failed to implement a stable software to keep both audio and video in sync. If they don't fix this issue in about 2 weeks, I will have to return my box as it is basically useless for me other than taking up precious cabinet space


curious why D-link cannot fix this issue soon enough even though every media player on the pc can play rmvb without any issue.