Boxee on Intrepid (Ubuntu 8.10)

[yuvalt]

Hi,

After some basic testing it seems that the Hardy package of Boxee is working fine on Interpid. However, Interpid has broken audio support on some machines as can be seen in Launchpad (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/280534). I got over this problem by removing PulseAudio, which isn't a straight forward operation. I suggest that you continue using Hardy until the ALSA problems are resolved in Intrepid. If you insist, go to the download section at Boxee web site and follow the Hardy instructions.

Good luck,

-Yuval

[Mr. Polite]

It should also be noted that Boxee requires 3D acceleration and *some* NVIDIA cards that use the legacy drivers will be forced to the NV driver upon upgrade to Intrepid. As most of you know, NV does not support 3D acceleration.

Hopefully NVIDIA come through with an updated driver compatible with the new xorg by Thursday, because until they do users of older NVIDIA cards will be stuck with Hardy or a Intrepid with no 3D/Boxee.

[Richardky]

Using Ubuntu 8.10 on a Acer 5920 , Boxee working fine including audio , with exception of not being able to control the volume.

[DarkFox]

Having some problems with boxee on Intrepid.

Had to downgrade the nvidia driver to 173 from 177 to even make it start.

When fast forwarding or rewinding a video, it either hangs with a looping half-a-second soundpiece (which doesn't end before the computer is restarted) or the sound starts at the wrong point.

These problems were not present on Hardy.

[Richardky]

Having some problems with boxee on Intrepid.

Had to downgrade the nvidia driver to 173 from 177 to even make it start.

When fast forwarding or rewinding a video, it either hangs with a looping half-a-second soundpiece (which doesn't end before the computer is restarted) or the sound starts at the wrong point.

These problems were not present on Hardy.

try turning off pulse audio , it should solve the looping stutter

[Michel]

Hi,

I tried to install Boxee onto Ubuntu 8.10/intrepid but got this message:

Could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade
The following packages have unresolvable dependencies. Make sure that all required repositories are added and enabled in the preferences.
Depends: libcdio6 but it is not installable
Depends: libglew1.4 (>=1.4.0) but it is not installable
Depends: libfaad2-dev but it is not installable

I tried to install through the terminal and Synaptic, and I got the same results.
It looks like this libs already installed are newer than those required, at least for the first 2, I'm not sure about the third one. How can I fix this?

I have this in my repositories deb http://apt.boxee.tv gutsy main but i don't know the difference between gutsy and hardy. How do i know which one i should use? What the difference or where can i see the major difference?

I'm new with Linux (installed 3 days ago) and really love it.

I was wondering what are my options:

Take a risk to uninstall these librairies and reinstall Boxee
Wait, til a new version is coming out for the version 8.10 (interprid)
expecting any other solution from you guys :p


Is there a way to know if these librairies are actually used by any other applications?

Thanks for your help

[DarkFox]

try turning off pulse audio , it should solve the looping stutter

I may have phrased that a bit vague... It happens most times when i try to fast-forward, rewind or pause. It simply stops the video, does the audio loop thing, and doesn't respond to anything.

The audio keeps looping even after boxee is killed from the console and doesn't stop before the machine is shut down.

I disabled pulse audio, which had no effect on the problem.

[AndresOr]

please, can somebody tell me if i can istall boxee in ubuntu 8.10, the same way i used to istalled in 8.04???

[DarkFox]

please, can somebody tell me if i can istall boxee in ubuntu 8.10, the same way i used to istalled in 8.04???

You can, but for now I'd recommend using 8.04 if you're not up for experimenting ;-)

[AndresOr]

You can, but for now I'd recommend using 8.04 if you're not up for experimenting ;-)

Thanks, i tried to install it and it gives me some dependence problem...:mad:
does any body knows, if there is going to be an intrepid repositorie any time soon??

[samjaynes]

I upgraded to 8.10 from 8.04, and as a result both Boxee and XBMC UI's run very slow, painful to the point that I can not use them. I have read threads about changing the vsync to 0 in the xml properties file, which did not help. So, I hope others have had success.

[agentlame]

what kind of video card do you have... also, are you using the latest binary drivers?

[denied]

didn't want to start a new thread, but nobody seems to be reporting too-fast playback like I have on my intrepid install.

figured audio might be a problem on upgrade... turns out everything appears to run fine but the video portion of content runs about 2x speed, audio still plays at normal speed but quickly loses sync since the video is flying along.

any suggestions? pretty basic setup, dell c521s, amd 3400+, ati x1300.

[agentlame]

just upgraded last night and had the same problem (and a host of others)

in system > administration > sound
i set all three 'sound playback' to:
ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture

fixed the following:
video too fast
pulseaudio lock up on exiting a video
boxee seg fault on mp3 playback.

[uncola]

I played around more with boxee in ubuntu 8.10 and once I changed system/preferences/sound to all ALSA instead of default or pulseaudio.. the video playback seems ok.. audio seems ok too.. but as soon as I skip ahead 30 seconds.. my computer hard locks :P
this happens in xbmc, too. when I use VLC 0.94 with audio output set to alsa I have no problems, even when I skip ahead in the video.
one tip that might help people is: if the only sound you have is crackling, that means you need to turn go into sound preferences and change the default mixer track to alsa PCM, then go to the volume control and turn the PCM volume up to get sound
UPDATE: I ran "killall pulseaudio" and now Boxee works perfectly, even when skipping ahead 30 seconds! It works for xbmc too! But you have to run the command every time you reboot :/ I'm just happy to have working boxee. why does pulseaudio interfere so much with boxee?

[marcel]

guys ..thanks for the advice..:)

[agentlame]

I'm just happy to have working boxee. why does pulseaudio interfere so much with boxee?

because, frankly, pulseaudio is .....

that said, you can safely remove it all together, like so:

sudo rm /etc/X11/Xsession.d/70pulseaudio
killall pulseaudio
sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
sudo apt-get install esound


reboot and enjoy.

[svega85]

why doesn't boxee just not use the pulse sound server instead of alsa

[agentlame]

why doesn't boxee just not use the pulse sound server instead of alsa

that's the point... boxee does not use pulse.
pulse is a 'replacement' for alsa... well, actually it's an abstraction for oss that implements alsa/esound.
sdl sucks at pulse because pulse does not offer a full alsa implantation.
it's not boxee/xbmc/sdl fault. pulse sits above oss and says 'hey i'm alsa' but it's not.

the situation is not helped by the fact that sdl_audio is itself an abstraction for the underlying operating system's native sound server.
(coreaudio, alsa, directsound)

short: pulse is not done, and should not be in any production distro.

shorter: see here: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/linuxaudio.png

shortest: pulseaudio is a fucking joke.

[DarkFox]

it's not boxee/xbmc/sdl fault. pulse sits above oss and says 'hey i'm alsa' but it's not.
...
shorter: see here: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/linuxaudio.png

Ugh, that makes my brain hurt...

[czar]

sudo rm /etc/X11/Xsession.d/70pulseaudio
killall pulseaudio
sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
sudo apt-get install esound


This helped. Thanks...

[agentlame]

This helped. Thanks...

only took 918 posts to finally help someone. ;)


...glad it worked.

[Michel]

only took 918 posts to finally help someone. ;)


...glad it worked.


I wished i would had some answers on this (http://forum.boxee.tv/showpost.php?p=7559&postcount=6)

[agentlame]

I wished i would had some answers on this (http://forum.boxee.tv/showpost.php?p=7559&postcount=6)

try the hardy repo.

[DGMurdockIII]

boxee runs very slow on it

[agentlame]

boxee runs very slow on it

on what? intrepid? it runs the same for me as it did on hardy. :confused:

[Michel]

I got it installed now (with Hardy) and its working.

thanks a lot

[DGMurdockIII]

runs slow on intrepid

[jenscw]

runs slow on intrepid

What kind of drivers do you use? If you have an ATI card you have to use the new Restricted driver from ATI.

If the full screen image gets corrupted with the restricted driver, try running boxee as super user. That works for me.

[masayume]

Am i the only one that seems to get a 404 error while trying to apt-get the deb package?

I've tried it for both hardy and gutsy and same thing. I've been having the problem ever since i first tried like a month ago. Does anyone have a standalone deb package or something?

[marcel]

@masayume ..check out this thread http://forum.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=1548 what error do you get? what 's your HW ?

[nonZero]

My solution:



sudo apt-get remove boxee


i.e. Please create an Intrepid friendly pkg.

nonZero

[archp2008]

Is this supposed to remove Boxee? I did it without even considering what it was supposed to do, but for some reason Boxee was not removed. The sound problem continues. Am I correct in assuming that the frustration level with the sound issue is still high and it has still not been resolved by anyone in this thread or elsewhere?

[archp2008]

When I try to remove pulse audio, why do I get cannot remove `/etc/X11/Xsession.d/70pulseaudio': No such file or directory?

[agentlame]

When I try to remove pulse audio, why do I get cannot remove `/etc/X11/Xsession.d/70pulseaudio': No such file or directory?

you can ignore that step, if it fails.

[archp2008]

When I did the other steps it fixed my Boxee. Thanks so much!!!

[agentlame]

When I did the other steps it fixed my Boxee. Thanks so much!!!

that is great! i'm glad you finally got it working!

[kristin]

because, frankly, pulseaudio is .....

that said, you can safely remove it all together, like so:

sudo rm /etc/X11/Xsession.d/70pulseaudio
killall pulseaudio
sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
sudo apt-get install esound


reboot and enjoy.

Killing pulseaudio worked for me.. but for the more permanent solution...

Does installing esound install a different desktop package? Removing pulseaudio removed the desktop for me so I had to replace the desktop package.. which reinstalled pulseaudio =\

[chenn]

Killing pulseaudio worked for me.. but for the more permanent solution...

Does installing esound install a different desktop package? Removing pulseaudio removed the desktop for me so I had to replace the desktop package.. which reinstalled pulseaudio =\

same problem:

sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
Pakketlijsten worden ingelezen... Klaar
Boom van vereisten wordt opgebouwd
De status informatie wordt gelezen... Klaar
De volgende pakketten zullen VERWIJDERD worden:
pulseaudio ubuntu-desktop

[jimmyjazz]

Fired up Boxee yesterday and was amazed at how slow it ran...figured it had to do with installing on Heron.

Anyway, my video card is a ATI x1550 with 256mb of ram, on that one tiny little pci express port that comes with a dell dimension.


what kind of video card do you have... also, are you using the latest binary drivers?

[agentlame]

Killing pulseaudio worked for me.. but for the more permanent solution...

Does installing esound install a different desktop package? Removing pulseaudio removed the desktop for me so I had to replace the desktop package.. which reinstalled pulseaudio =\

ubuntu-desktop is a meta package... you don't need it.



Fired up Boxee yesterday and was amazed at how slow it ran...figured it had to do with installing on Heron.

Anyway, my video card is a ATI x1550 with 256mb of ram, on that one tiny little pci express port that comes with a dell dimension.


the fact that it is the hardy package is unrelated. have you disabled compiz?

[kristin]

ubuntu-desktop is a meta package... you don't need it.


I couldn't get into the gnome/desktop environment without it. It just didn't load up..

Hubby killed the pulseaudio a different way for me. He's savvier than I am.

[tuurie]

just upgraded last night and had the same problem (and a host of others)

in system > administration > sound
i set all three 'sound playback' to:
ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture

fixed the following:
video too fast
pulseaudio lock up on exiting a video
boxee seg fault on mp3 playback.

YES YES YES!!! Worked for me:
1. System-Preferences-Sound
2. Everything set to ALSA
3. sudo rm /etc/X11/Xsession.d/70pulseaudio
4. killall pulseaudio
5. sudo apt-get remove pulseaudio
6. sudo apt-get install esound
7. restart

[agentlame]

3. sudo rm /etc/X11/Xsession.d/70pulseaudio


oh... that was my bad... that's she couldn't login.
forgot about that step. :(

[tuurie]

I think all ubuntu users should read this article.
http://www.highonsolder.com/blog/2008/11/22/boxee-ubuntu-810-setup.html
Thanks Diederik for finding this AND the introduction to Boxee.

[agentlame]

I think all ubuntu users should read this article.
http://www.highonsolder.com/blog/2008/11/22/boxee-ubuntu-810-setup.html
Thanks Diederik for finding this AND the introduction to Boxee.

that article has some great tips. :D

maybe post this up as an independent thread, so new users see is?

[tuurie]

Yes or make a sticky which point to that page.
I even got boxee runnin on my Dell X1 laptop running with Intrepid thanks to these settings.
Watching streaming TV Shows via smb share!

[tmsbrdrs]

Hi,

I tried to install Boxee onto Ubuntu 8.10/intrepid but got this message:

Could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade
The following packages have unresolvable dependencies. Make sure that all required repositories are added and enabled in the preferences.
Depends: libcdio6 but it is not installable
Depends: libglew1.4 (>=1.4.0) but it is not installable
Depends: libfaad2-dev but it is not installable

I tried to install through the terminal and Synaptic, and I got the same results.
It looks like this libs already installed are newer than those required, at least for the first 2, I'm not sure about the third one. How can I fix this?

I have this in my repositories deb http://apt.boxee.tv gutsy main but i don't know the difference between gutsy and hardy. How do i know which one i should use? What the difference or where can i see the major difference?

I'm new with Linux (installed 3 days ago) and really love it.

I was wondering what are my options:

Take a risk to uninstall these librairies and reinstall Boxee
Wait, til a new version is coming out for the version 8.10 (interprid)
expecting any other solution from you guys :p


Is there a way to know if these librairies are actually used by any other applications?

Thanks for your help



If you haven't figured it out by now, there's now an Intrepid release of Boxee which lets it be installed through synaptic just fine.

[gazambuja]

you no need uninstall pulseaudio, for me work fine this script:

#!/bin/sh
pulseaudio -k
sleep 1
killall pulseaudio
/opt/boxee/run-boxee-desktop
pulseaudio -D

then, I run instead /opt/boxee/run-boxee-desktop

[atledale]

I am running a distro based on Ubuntu 8.10, and it has not got System-Preferences-Appearance-Visual Effects.

So how do I determine its setting, and how do I turn it off?

I am doing this of course because of the advice in the article a few posts earlier in this thread.

[tranceparance]

@atledale...

Try this on your Ubuntu desktop:

right-click anywhere on desktop -> scroll down to and select "change desktop background" -> go to "visual effects" tab -> select "none" and click close

If that does not work, you may wish to search Ubuntu forums for command line options.

Peace,

Tranceparance :-)

[atledale]

Thanks, I found it, but it was already turned off. And Boxee is still not working after all I did following these advices. Since I was not runnig the original Ubuntu, I am forced to now try pure Ubuntu. I am thinking of going for 8.0.4 for starters, even though you guys have a solution. Is it any reason to go for 8.10 when 8.04 works as well, then?

[tranceparance]

I am running Boxee on 8.10 Intrepid just fine if that helps. What is the exact problem you are having?

[atledale]

I am having the common problem with 2x video. I also thought it was unstable. I manged playing sound ok with the fix described earlier, but the video problem was still there. I think it may have to do with hardware. That my Asus 1000H does not support 3d or something.

I just installed 8.0.4, but so far it does not look good. It is very slow and I have to wait 3-4 second for every letter I type into the login box. Shoul I reboot after installing Boxee? Anyway, that is what I am doing now.

Also, do you know if I need to follow the fix for 8.10 for 8.0.4?

[tranceparance]

If you are connecting to your TV/monitor via hdmi, make sure do the following to eliminate the 2x video problem:

Launch Boxee -> Go to Settings -> Go to Audio Hardware -> Click Audio Output Device and change "default" value to "hdmi" -> restart Boxee

Also make sure you kill pulse audio as noted in this thread and others on these forums.

Hopefully that resolves the issue.

Peace,

Tranceparance :-)

[atledale]

Rebooting Ubuntu 8.0.4 with Array EEEPC Ubuntu Repositry still did not do this. When I start Boxee, I get a response time of 7-10 seconds for everything I do. I think I will have to reinstall the first version again and take it from there.

I am just connecting my Asus 1000H with a VGA-cable and a analogue soundcable to my sound receiver. But I am not even there in this try. Boxee is far too slow.

[tranceparance]

Sounds good... let us know how it goes.

[atledale]

After I add the 3rd part software source, i got this message:

W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3F2A5EE4B796B6FE

W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/netbook-remix-team/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/Release

W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.


I think I got that last time, too, but didn't pay attention to it. what do I do with this?

At the moment I am downlaoding 132 Mb of updates. This may fix it. I saw there are 3 updates to the EEEPC-kernel.

I saw this : http://forum.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=1548

Looks like this is the issue here, but it does not explain the error with signature verification. Is this important?

[tranceparance]

Here are the install instructions for Boxee on Ubuntu 8.10 from app.boxee.tv:

1. Go to System > Administration > Software Sources.

2. In Sources Software dialogue, select Third-Party Software tab, click Add, and enter: deb http://apt.boxee.tv intrepid main

3. After closing this dialogue you can either use Synaptics and select Boxee for download, or use a terminal window, and enter sudo apt-get install boxee.

To run Boxee, Applications > Sound & Video > Boxee

Did you do this?

[atledale]

Here are the install instructions for Boxee on Ubuntu 8.10 from app.boxee.tv:

1. Go to System > Administration > Software Sources.

2. In Sources Software dialogue, select Third-Party Software tab, click Add, and enter: deb http://apt.boxee.tv intrepid main

3. After closing this dialogue you can either use Synaptics and select Boxee for download, or use a terminal window, and enter sudo apt-get install boxee.

To run Boxee, Applications > Sound & Video > Boxee

Did you do this?


No, I didn't get here, because the errors I got after step 2. So I figured this has to go without errors first. I think it has to do with Authentication. I see it is possible to import a key there.

When I removed the source, I got the same error. I will now try to add the source again.

I see now that I don't get that error if I select no reload the sources. Synaptic Package Manager still finds Boxee and I have now installed it. Let's see if I am more lucky this time...


So isn't the link I found relevant to me?

[atledale]

Looking good! It now can play video from my Windows machine with sound perfectly!

The only thing I could not do, as I could on my Apple-Tv, was to get online subtitles to work. How is that done? Does it not work with the Linux-version?

[atledale]

I have to take that back. I just tried playing MP3 files and it crashed Boxee. Then I tried a different film and it was playing video at 2x speed again.

What do I do now? Set the sync-option in the xml-file?

I even set the sync to 0 in the guisettings.xml. Still mp3 are crashing Boxee and the video is playing at 2x. When I tried to update I got the same error as I described some posts back(#58). I think this is the key to solve my problem, but I don't know how.

[davestyle]

you no need uninstall pulseaudio, for me work fine this script:

#!/bin/sh
pulseaudio -k
sleep 1
killall pulseaudio
/opt/boxee/run-boxee-desktop
pulseaudio -D

then, I run instead /opt/boxee/run-boxee-desktop

This is the only thing that has worked for me. Thank you sooooo very much :)

[wonslung]

only took 918 posts to finally help someone. ;)


...glad it worked.

lol

i don't even install esound, i just remove pulseaudio and it works fine.